Michael Schroeder 

Can you provide a sample file to play with.  It's very difficult to answer these sort of questions without a file to look at.

Sure I can, but I would like to email it instead of posting it publicly. Possible?

Michael Schroeder 

ok - I thought you might be able to just make one up using only the content you have shown here already?  Anyway, no problem you can email pfilkin at sdl dot com.

Thanks for that! I was thinking it might be useful in case parent tags might play a role. Sending straightaway.

Sorry, it looks like I sent I overlooked the autosuggested email address and sent it to your rws address. Hope that is OK.

Michael Schroeder 

No worries... I have your mail and will look at this later today

Thanks

Paul..

 Michael Schroeder 

I'm been puzzling over this between meetings all afternoon and I cannot understand why it won't work!  So I have logged a case (Case Details - 00780593) and will come back to you when I know more.  Could be I'm doing something stupid, but your rule seems fine to me.  I created a small test that should get me this:

I changed one of the element names and even simplified the file a little just to remove any doubt over duplicate naming, but still have this problem you reported.

Thanks for looking into it. I also considered those possibilities and did the same (thinking e.g. the hyphens in the attribute might be the culprit). Very interested to see what comes out of this. I have another question regarding XML2 and WorldServer but I will post that in the appropriate forum.

 Michael Schroeder 

So... I was doing something stupid.  I disregarded the name space.  So if I use my same sample file with this rule:

//p0:parentg    (structure)

//p0:parentg/p0:g[@ctype='x-html-STRONG']     (inline)

//*   (not translatable)

And set the namespace to:

P0

p0 urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2

Then I get this:

I would add that the reason it worked for me in my test is because I ignored the folded group in my xpPath tester that automatically added the namespace info!! Once I expand it you can see this:

Hi Paul, that's fantastic that you got that working!

Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about namespaces since I guess they weren't that necessary with the Embedded Content file type. Are there any RWS resources available where I can read up on this functionality for the XML file type?

Michael Schroeder 

Michael Schroeder said:

that's fantastic that you got that working!

With some assistance from Vlad Bondor in support who pointed out my mistake.

You keep mentioning the "Embedded Content Filetype" and I don't fully understand this.  You also have the ability to use embedded content with the XML2 filetype as well.  So I don't really understand your problem there.

Namespaces were also used in older versions but it's actually easier to apply them now.  The XLIFF file does use a namespace so the XML2 filetype is handling this correctly.

The help documentation is here... although not too helpful!

https://docs.rws.com/980998/337817/trados-studio-2022/xml-namespaces

But essentially all you need to do is set a prefix that you wish to use for the namespace.  Vlad used p0 and I left it that way but you can use whatever you like.  You can see my testing tool automatically used ns1 for the namespace in which case the xpath would have been:

//ns1:parentg/ns1:g[@ctype='x-html-STRONG'] 

In your xliff the namespace is this one:

xmlns:xsi="www.w3.org/.../XMLSchema-instance"

So you would add this into the filetype settings:

A good resource to learn more about namespaces would be https://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_namespaces.asp

Michael Schroeder 

Michael Schroeder said:

that's fantastic that you got that working!

With some assistance from Vlad Bondor in support who pointed out my mistake.

You keep mentioning the "Embedded Content Filetype" and I don't fully understand this.  You also have the ability to use embedded content with the XML2 filetype as well.  So I don't really understand your problem there.

Namespaces were also used in older versions but it's actually easier to apply them now.  The XLIFF file does use a namespace so the XML2 filetype is handling this correctly.

The help documentation is here... although not too helpful!

https://docs.rws.com/980998/337817/trados-studio-2022/xml-namespaces

But essentially all you need to do is set a prefix that you wish to use for the namespace.  Vlad used p0 and I left it that way but you can use whatever you like.  You can see my testing tool automatically used ns1 for the namespace in which case the xpath would have been:

//ns1:parentg/ns1:g[@ctype='x-html-STRONG'] 

In your xliff the namespace is this one:

xmlns:xsi="www.w3.org/.../XMLSchema-instance"

So you would add this into the filetype settings:

A good resource to learn more about namespaces would be https://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_namespaces.asp

Thanks for all your help!!

>>You keep mentioning the "Embedded Content Filetype" and I don't fully understand this.  You also have the ability to use embedded content with the XML2 filetype as well.  So I don't really understand your problem there.

Sorry for the confusion. We are within the Trados Studio / WorldServer dynamic. Until recently, we were using WS 11.3.5, which did not support XML 2 file types, so we've never really messed with creating them in Studio. Then we upgraded to a newer version of WorldServer in December that does support XML 2 (kind of, see here). So this is the first time I've ever really worked with XML 2 even though it's been around for a bit.

With this, I just want to make sure we are ahead of the curve whenever we do lose access to Studio 2021 and the ability to use the Embedded Content XML filter (see here, I've been busy on the forums today ).

Anyway, I'm sorted now. Thanks again for all your help, the link, and the explanation as well. Top as always!