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Update page number of LOEP

Kai Chung Lew

I follow the LOEP process in the manual, I can generate the ASCII files tt-tloep and tloep from a division. Does anyone know how to update the division to use the new page number in the tloep? Are there any samples showing how to do it?

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Chung
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    Chung,

    The answer to your question depends on how your job is organized.

    If your LOEP is a separate division, you can simply run the LOEP process at the job level and the system will recreate the loep division for you.

    But I guess you had this figured out already.

    So I suppose that your LOEP is part of a bigger division or even worse you have kind of a mini-loep at the start of each chapter/section. In that case the manual gives you only the possibility to toxsf and compose the tloep somewhere (end of division or in a separate division) and manually cut and past it into the correct position.

    If you want to automate this more, you will have to come up with your own procedure to do so as the system does not have a pre-build solution for this. The right way to resolve this problem depends on many things:

    • where is the LOEP situated
    • does it live on a separate (set of ) page(s)
    • how does your loose-leaf update process look like
    • ...

    Hope this helps...
  • 0 in reply to Bart Terryn
    Hi Bart,

    The basic requirement of the loose-leaf I need, is to show the loose leaf page number at the frill of each page.
    After trying compose in proofing mode, using auto/manual Loose-leaf, I cannot show any change for the value of the p5 or p6 on those changed pages. Does it require to add any manual settings in the transformation table for doing this?

    Chung
  • 0 in reply to Kai Chung Lew
    Chung,

    If all you are trying to do is to get the correct page number appearing on each page, then you are looking too far when you are looking into the LOEP spec and process.
    After a LL compose, if everything is set correctly then the correct page numbers will appear immediately on each page.
    The fact that they not show up in your case is probably because the system is not making any insert pages at all.
    Something you can quickly verify by looking at the page manifest when the division is open. (do [Menu][More][looseleaf][page manifest])
  • 0 in reply to Bart Terryn
    Hi Bart,

    Thank you. Now I can successfully display point pages when there are overset texts for a page.

    I have another question, are there any ways to maintain the page number (p4) of the pages after a deleted pages?
    For example, if page 5 is deleted, page 6 is edited. When I compose page 6, the page number will change to 5 for both auto and manual loose-leaf. I would like to maintain the page 6 as page 6. Is that require to leave a blank page as page 5 to make it happen?

    Regards,
    Chung
  • 0 in reply to Kai Chung Lew

    Chung,

    Unfortunately no is the answer.

    Auto looseleaf will recompose all pages that have been edited. Since page 6 is following page 5, both will get composed as a unit and the text will reflow onto the empty page 5 and you will end up with an empty (or almost empty) page 5.

    I guess creating a fake blank page is your only option if you really want to keep page 5 empty.

    But that will then create problems when you will create the LOEP (in case you have to of course). As page 5 will no longer be marked by the system as empty...

    (and so on and so on, you better think twice when you begin to fiddle with looseleaf publications as every mistake you make will haunt you for the rest of your life [:'(])