Hi! I was wondering if the new DeepL glossary function is available to use in Trados 2021 and how would I go about that?
Thank you!
Dani
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We have been discussing a few things with the DeepL team and I wanted to make sure you understood that this feature will not be available to you if you only have a Pro account?
It will only be available to users with a "DeepL API for Business" subscription. This is because of what DeepL support, not because of anything we are restricting.
To quote the information we were provided with:
"However, in case of additional development to your plugin, it should be noted that customers with a DeepL Pro Advanced or Ultimate subscription (the prerequisites for CAT Tool integration) are not allowed to create the glossaries themselves via direct API request.
Direct access to our API by customers who do not have a DeepL API subscription counts as a violation of our Terms and Conditions and may result in a corresponding suspension for these customers."
So this means you have to have a DeepL API subscription of which they offer three types:
Of these three only one includes CAT tool integration and that's "DeepL API for Business".
We are currently investigation with DeepL how we are able determine the style of subscription a user has as this is not clear. But this is likely to be news for some users, possibly like you, who have a Pro subscription and believed this meant you can work with glossaries.
You should also be aware that there are glossaries, and there are glossaries! The glossaries you create using the API are not the same as the glossaries you create manually. So you will not be able to use the ones you created in your account as they cannot be accessed via the API... and vice versa. This means a lot of synching between the two if you wish to keep them in synch... something you will have to do manually.
Also, the DeepL API does not support an ability to change a glossary. So if you need to make changes you would have to delete the existing one and recreate a new one.
All in all possibly not a particularly attractive option. I would be very interested to learn your view on this information if you were not aware of it already?
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Paul Filkin I am really surprised by the information you provided about glossary function not available in DeepL Pro API.
According to DeepL documentation (https://support.deepl.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021638100), "You can create glossaries with your DeepL API (Free and Pro) subscription". To confirm, I successfully added another glossary, and used it in translation from Polish to English, with my DeepL Pro account and DeepL plug-in to memoQ 9.14. (I had used this function before, today I wanted to ensure it was not withdrawn by DeepL for Pro accounts, and it was not.)
The limitation about glossaries not being directly portable between web DeepL Pro and CAT DeepL Pro plug-in is known, and there is also a known work-around documented (https://support.deepl.com/hc/en-us/articles/4405021321746): "Please note that glossaries created via the DeepL API are distinct from glossaries created via the DeepL website and DeepL desktop apps. This means that API glossaries can't be used on the DeepL website and DeepL desktop apps and vice versa. It is, however, possible to download your glossary created via the DeepL website or DeepL desktop apps as a CSV file, which you can upload to create a new glossary in the API."
The also-known inconvenience of deleting the existing glossary and adding a new one whenever we need to update a glossary - no need to "recreate", just re-upload the updated CSV file - is relatively small, compared to how nicely the glossary function works in DeepL and how it helps ensure correct terminology, consistency, and do-not-translate, all within a singe-user Pro license. Nb. the glossary works well for languages with flexion (you only add nominative form and DeepL takes care of all derivative forms!).
To sum up: DeepL glossary is a particularly attractive option, and I am positive that it still works for DeepL Pro API.
If you cannot do this I wonder if you have the correct version of the plugin installed? It seems quite obvious when you have:
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I also updated the wiki a little to reflect this information and make it more clear. Thanks for the tip!
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Hi Paul,
How are you triggering that dialog box?
The only way I know of bringing up the DeepL dialog is to add the DeepL provider to a project and then use Settings. When I do tha, this is what I see:
I've uninstalled the DeepL Translation Provider via the AppStore, restarted Studio and then installed it from the AppStore again, but still get the same result. In case it's relevant, I'm using Studio 2021 SR2, not Studio 2022.
Is it possible that either the newest version of the the DeepL Translation Provider is not compatible with Studio 2021 SR2, or that despite thinking I've uninstalled and then installed the latest version, I keep reinstalling an old version?
All the best,
Steve
I'm using Studio 2021 SR2, not Studio 2022.
That's your problem. It's only available for 2022 I'm afraid.
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OK, thanks.
Was this mentioned in the Wiki? If so, I missed it. If not, it would be worth adding it.
Hello Paul,
are there any plans to release a version of the DeepL plugin with glossary support for Studio 2021, and if yes when?
thanks
are there any plans to release a version of the DeepL plugin with glossary support for Studio 2021
No.
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Was this mentioned in the Wiki? If so, I missed it. If not, it would be worth adding it.
Agreed. I added a note in the main wiki and also updated the change log to make this clear.
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The latest version of DeepL plug-in does contain Glossary Support, thank you! The panel for adding and updating glossaries contains about half of the bugs I reported in beta testing, but the glossary function of DeepL works like gold (or, as expected) in pre-translation :-)
The panel for adding and updating glossaries contains about half of the bugs I reported in beta testing
Since we don't know what you reported perhaps you can share them in a separate thread so we can address them?
I want to close this one now as it's done and already very messy!!
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The panel for adding and updating glossaries contains about half of the bugs I reported in beta testing
Since we don't know what you reported perhaps you can share them in a separate thread so we can address them?
I want to close this one now as it's done and already very messy!!
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