Steve Rawcliffe Thilo Pawelka Ismael Garay 

We have been discussing a few things with the DeepL team and I wanted to make sure you understood that this feature will not be available to you if you only have a Pro account?

It will only be available to users with a "DeepL API for Business" subscription.  This is because of what DeepL support, not because of anything we are restricting.

To quote the information we were provided with:

"However, in case of additional development to your plugin, it should be noted that customers with a DeepL Pro Advanced or Ultimate subscription (the prerequisites for CAT Tool integration) are not allowed to create the glossaries themselves via direct API request.
Direct access to our API by customers who do not have a DeepL API subscription counts as a violation of our Terms and Conditions and may result in a corresponding suspension for these customers."

So this means you have to have a DeepL API subscription of which they offer three types:

• DeepL API Free
• DeepL API Pro
• DeepL API for Business

Of these three only one includes CAT tool integration and that's "DeepL API for Business".

We are currently investigation with DeepL how we are able determine the style of subscription a user has as this is not clear.  But this is likely to be news for some users, possibly like you, who have a Pro subscription and believed this meant you can work with glossaries.

You should also be aware that there are glossaries, and there are glossaries!  The glossaries you create using the API are not the same as the glossaries you create manually.  So you will not be able to use the ones you created in your account as they cannot be accessed via the API... and vice versa.  This means a lot of synching between the two if you wish to keep them in synch... something you will have to do manually.

Also, the DeepL API does not support an ability to change a glossary.  So if you need to make changes you would have to delete the existing one and recreate a new one.

All in all possibly not a particularly attractive option.  I would be very interested to learn your view on this information if you were not aware of it already?

Steve Rawcliffe Thilo Pawelka Ismael Garay 

We have been discussing a few things with the DeepL team and I wanted to make sure you understood that this feature will not be available to you if you only have a Pro account?

It will only be available to users with a "DeepL API for Business" subscription.  This is because of what DeepL support, not because of anything we are restricting.

To quote the information we were provided with:

"However, in case of additional development to your plugin, it should be noted that customers with a DeepL Pro Advanced or Ultimate subscription (the prerequisites for CAT Tool integration) are not allowed to create the glossaries themselves via direct API request.
Direct access to our API by customers who do not have a DeepL API subscription counts as a violation of our Terms and Conditions and may result in a corresponding suspension for these customers."

So this means you have to have a DeepL API subscription of which they offer three types:

• DeepL API Free
• DeepL API Pro
• DeepL API for Business

Of these three only one includes CAT tool integration and that's "DeepL API for Business".

We are currently investigation with DeepL how we are able determine the style of subscription a user has as this is not clear.  But this is likely to be news for some users, possibly like you, who have a Pro subscription and believed this meant you can work with glossaries.

You should also be aware that there are glossaries, and there are glossaries!  The glossaries you create using the API are not the same as the glossaries you create manually.  So you will not be able to use the ones you created in your account as they cannot be accessed via the API... and vice versa.  This means a lot of synching between the two if you wish to keep them in synch... something you will have to do manually.

Also, the DeepL API does not support an ability to change a glossary.  So if you need to make changes you would have to delete the existing one and recreate a new one.

All in all possibly not a particularly attractive option.  I would be very interested to learn your view on this information if you were not aware of it already?

Hi Paul - we have a business account, as CAT tool integration is enabled/included in our subscription, thanks.

Thank you for your detailed answer and the update on the state of affairs.
It is of course annoying that there is no easy way to use glossaries via the DeepL Pro subscription, but DeepL will have its reasons.
Since last year we have been using a third party plugin (Custom MT) to integrate the glossaries and are very happy with it.

Thilo Pawelka 

Thilo Pawelka said:

Since last year we have been using a third party plugin (Custom MT) to integrate the glossaries and are very happy with it.

I'm very glad to hear it.  Do you need to have a DeepL API for Business subscription for this or is everything handled through CustomMT?

Ismael Garay 

Ismael Garay said:

we have a business account, as CAT tool integration is enabled/included in our subscription, thanks.

CAT tool integration is also enabled with Advanced and Ultimate... but not the use of glossaries via the API. Hence my question.  So it is quite specific.

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the heads-up. This makes DeepL pretty-well useless to me, as virtually all my texts are chock-full of specific terminology. Furthermore, they don't even state a price, just saying "custom pricing available".

Furthermore, while DeepL is way ahead of where MT was only a couple of years ago, bringing its output up to publication standard still requires careful revision, not just for style and tone but also to detect all the instances in which the translation sounds good but is actually wrong. That already erodes a large percentage of the time savings achieved. If in addition I have to spend extra time and effort managing my terminology, I'd be paying for the privilege of translating more slowly, with a poorer end result.

So until they allow you guys to provide seamless integration of my MultiTerm termbases, with a licence at a sensible price (no more than €25 a month max for Advanced, including termbase integration) I shall stick to manual translation using Studio and MultiTerm!

I'd already let my DeepL subscription lapse, and I won't be renewing it for the foreseeable future.

All the best,

Steve

No, you don't need a DeepL API for Business subscription to use the DeepL glossary feature through CustomMT. You do need a subscription with CustomMT, but I think the DeepL glossary feature is included in the free basic package.

Thilo Pawelka 

Thilo Pawelka said:

I think the DeepL glossary feature is included in the free basic package.

There's a difference between the glossaries with the free package and the glossaries used in a CAT tool via the API.  The subscription plans separate then quite distinctly and they are not interchangeable.

Sorry, that was unclear: I meant the free basic subsciption package with CustomMT. You can have a free subscription with CustomMT an be able to use the DeepL glossary feature through their Trados plugin without the need of having any subscription with DeepL. At least to my understanding.

Just to clarify: the Custom.MT plugin supports glossaries for Deepl and it does not require a Deepl API subscription. A "Deepl Pro" account is sufficient. The user needs to enter the API key from Deepl once into the Deepl engine settings on the Custom.MT console before he can add glossaries.

Sounds like that could be worth trying!