Trados Number Verifier: Separator issues (hyphen + thousand/decimal)

Hi everyone,

we noticed a few issues with the Number Verifier plugin related to separators.
Regardless of the language combination, the issues described below produce a lot of unwanted error messages or false positives,
which in turn creates additional work for our translators during the QA check.

1. Whenever there is a smaller sequence of numbers separated by a hyphen, the Number Verifier (NV) claims that the separator (-) is not recognized.
When we add the hyphen as a custom separator in the NV settings, the "Separator is not recognized" error message disappears, but is replaced by the
"The group value is out of range" message. Based on the NV documentation, this is due to the fact that the hyphen must be preceded by at least
3 digits for the string to be properly recognized. In our case, the customer has a lot of product names that contain sequences like the own shown below (i.e. 13-2)

Screenshot of a software interface showing error messages for 'Separator is not recognized' in the Number Verifier tool.

This is not a customer-specific issue, though.The same happens with segments that have ranges (like "keep pressure between 2-5 hpa") in them.
Working with regular expressions to exclude these strings doesn't cut it for us, as we would risk to miss erratic changes of these strings (i.e. when working with fuzzy matches).

Is there an easier way to tag these kind of strings as being a range?

2. We also noticed that the NV does not always adhere to the thousands and decimal separators specified in the NV settings.

In the example below we should not get an error message according to our settings. We allow commas as thousands separators in the source and spaces in the target.

Screenshot of a software interface displaying multiple 'Different values' error messages in the Number Verifier tool.

The message even pops up when we allow every single default separator in both source and target.

Screenshot of Number Verifier settings showing options for source and target thousands separators with various examples.

Again, this produces a lot of false positives.

Any idea why this is happening?

Thanks in advance for your support!

KR,
Julian



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[edited by: RWS Community AI at 10:46 AM (GMT 0) on 20 Feb 2025]
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  • Hi  

    I am very aware of the false positives that comes from Number Verifer
    Its a tough topic to have for a number of reasons.

    However in your case I think its down to settings.

    Firstly to fix the separator not recognised issue as you show in your first screen print. Segment 2058..

    Add the - under "Source/target decimal separators"

    Settings dialog showing Source and Target decimal separators with a hyphen as a custom separator selected for both.

    Then using your  source -> 1,500 W to target -> 1 5 00 W example 
    See how mine did not given an error. However whats hard to show on target side I enabled Custom separator and added a space. See it in red
    Application window with Number Verifier Settings, showing different options for Source and Target thousands and decimal separators, with a red outline around an error in the Target custom separator field.

    I hope these setting adjustments help

    Lyds

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  • Hi ,

    Thanks for your detailed feedback! I can confirm that your solution regarding the source/target decimal separators did do the trick for me.
    As of now, the F8 check only returns an error message if a value within the string has been changed, which is the behavior I would expect.

    The second adjustment didn't produce the desired outcome. I added the space as a custom separator, but I still get those "different values" messages in all languages.
    Screenshot of a software interface showing a list of error messages labeled 'Different values' under the 'Message' column, related to 'Trados Number Verifier'. Below is a text comparison between source and target translations, highlighting differences in the term 'New:cordless:angle:grinder:fully-equal:to:corded:1,500W'.

    Btw, why would I add the space as a custom separator given that it is already included in the standard selection?

    Looking forward to your reply!

    KR,
    Julian

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    [edited by: RWS Community AI at 3:43 PM (GMT 0) on 26 Feb 2025]
  • Hi ,
    any idea how to solve the second issue described in my latest reply?
    Would appreciate your help Slight smile

    Thanks in advance!
    BR,
    Julian

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