SDK and documentation for Trados 2007

Hi all,


I'd like to automate some tasks using the old Trados version, I mean 2007.

I've seen there are plenty of documentation from 2009 on, but I don't find anything related to the previous version and its SDK. Anybody with the same problem?


Thanks in advance.

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  • You can download a free version of Visual Studio, which is enough for most Trados related tasks.
  • Paul, the point is that
    1) The users I'm talking about do NOT need the power you guys are so excited about... they do NOT want customize/redesign the interface, nor they have ambitions to create plugins, etc... All they want is some EASY(!)-to-create automation of pretranslate, cleanup, etc.
    2) The power of the API has NOTHING to do with the way it's accessible (COM/.NET/etc.). Just look at the Microsoft Office - even the latest version can still be automated using simple JScript/VBScript file written in Notepad, using all of the latest features and API enhancements!

    Regarding PowerShell - have YOU personally tried to write some simple T2007 automation in VBScript and compare it with TS201x effort needed for the same automation using PowerShell?! I seriously doubt that, it looks rather like you just repeat someone else's (most probably a developer's) words.
    Have you tried to get the 'glorious' PowerShell Toolkit and actually _USE_ it with TS2014/2015 installed on Win7 or Win8? It's NOT possible 'out-of-the-box'! One gets some weird god-knows-what-it-means errors (and it's NOT about the paths, of course!) and it simply does not work.
    And then what? If you are not developer (and remember, we are talking about NON-developers!), you are screwed.

    So I strongly suggest everybody to get realistic and get out of their offices and talk to real common users...

  • Looks like you did not get what I'm talking about.
    It's NOT about tools. It's about necessary additional knowledge and experience... and most importantly about the .NET chaos (versions, dependencies, references and god-knows-what-other-sh*t one needs to understand... ooops, additional necessary knowledge/experience!) to be able to cope with it.

    I can take my few-lines JavaScript file (written in Notepad) and use it to automate T2007 installed on _ANY_ system (WinXPSP3/Vista/7/8.x/10) without ANY pre-requisities and without checking if this-or-that version of this-or-that is installed or not.

    And what do I need to do the same with Studio and that 'glorious' PowerShell (Toolkit)?!
    How many things I need to check and/or install on each of these systems to make it work?
  • OK - so what you are saying is that we should have an installer functionality to basically set the system in a way such automation is possible without any further steps?
    E.g. similar to Trados 2007 where you had to change the default installation option? Maybe as additional functionality of SDK installer which will set up the options and eventually deploy necessary version of the PowerShell?
  • No.
    I'm saying that common users do NOT want this .NET madness, but want the easy-to-use COM API back.
  • Unknown said:
    Regarding PowerShell - have YOU personally tried to write some simple T2007 automation in VBScript and compare it with TS201x effort needed for the same automation using PowerShell?

    ......

    So I strongly suggest everybody to get realistic and get out of their offices and talk to real common users...

    Hi Evzen,

    I get your point, it's unfortunate you can't see it from our persepective as the current solution is lot more successful than the old COM approach ever was.  However, maybe as Patrik suggested it may be that adding a simple way to call the sort of things you understand might be useful for some users.  I don't think we need to get out more though as I can assure you I know of more development work carried out by our users since we provided this capability than we ever had before.

    On your question to me... well I'm not clever enough to develop anything and don't know anything about the COM stuff, but when the powershell toolkit came out I did have a go and even showed quite a few people how to get started.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Hi Paul,

    please have another go with CURRENT Studio version (i.e. 2014/2015) installed on CURRENT operating system with CURRENT standard updates and the Powershell Toolkit and you will see what I'm talking about (and as I said, it's not about changing the Studio paths in the PS modules... it's about some weird .NET version vs. PowerShell version hell).
    And also try to do MORE than the very few simple operations included in the toolkit!

    You guys still don't get what I'm talking about - there is a HUGE difference between DEVELOPER and (POWER)USER with scripting ability...
    This forum's community is NOT powerusers, these people are developers.

    As long as the API stays accessible ONLY via .NET hell, there WON'T be any "simple way" to do things... because the re is no SIMPLE way to use .NET hell.
    Unless some developer(!) puts a HUGE effort into creating something what will 'mimic' the ease of use of the former COM API.
    Which is highly unlikely to happen... because developers don't see the need (THEY do speak .NET, so why would they do it, right?) and powerusers don't have the knowledge.
    So us, scripters like me (or maybe Jesus who started this thread) will be still out of the game.

    There is absolutely no NEED to abandon COM (as we see on Microsoft Office).
  • Hi all.

    I believe you all are partially right. In my personal case I've used several programming languages and being open-minded people is the best option...at least to keep mentally sane.

    Thanks again.