Index model default value is only assigned to the first term entered

Hello,

I'm looking for some advice on using index models to assign default values when adding terms to a termbase on-the-fly from Studio (2017). I have included some screenshots of the steps I have taken so far to illustrate the problem.

My aim is as follows:

For a single term in my source language, I want to be able to enter two alternative translations in the target language (one for Customer A, one for Customer B). I want to use input models to automatically assign the value "Customer A" or "Customer B" as appropriate.

I have created a termbase with the necessary fields, and created two input models (one which applies the default value "Customer A", one which applies the default value "Customer B"). Here's a screenshot for the 'Customer A' input model:

When I translate a (fake!) document for Customer A, with my 'Customer A' input model activated, MultiTerm automatically assigns the value 'Customer A' to my English term as I want it to:

 

So far so good. Here's the problem: when I translate Customer B's document (with my 'Customer B' input model activated), although the alternative term is correctly added, the 'Customer' field is not automatically assigned:

 

I'm sure I must be missing something very obvious somewhere along the line, as I've found examples of very similar structures online (often where the aim is to assign a 'Status' field, with values such as 'Approved', 'Obsolete', etc.) so what I'm trying to do is presumably possible! 

Just to clarify, I can manually edit the second term (either in the Studio Termbase Viewer, or in Multiterm itself) to add the 'Customer B' value, but if I've understood correctly, it should be possible to do this automatically.

And one final comment/question: I'm using Studio/Multiterm 2017, and it seems that in the "Default layout" option in the Termbase viewer, there is no way of selecting an input model. I've therefore switched back to "Flags layout", but unfortunately this means clicking "Save" every time I add a new term. Am I right in thinking there is no way of having the 'best of both worlds', i.e. being able to use input models AND having Multiterm automatically save any new terms I add?

Any pointers?

Thank you!

 

 

 

  • Hello Hayley,

    Unknown said:
    Just to clarify, I can manually edit the second term (either in the Studio Termbase Viewer, or in Multiterm itself) to add the 'Customer B' value, but if I've understood correctly, it should be possible to do this automatically.

    I have exactly the same problem... and can only manually do it like this:

    This looks like a bug to me that we need to address as it should indeed add this automatically.  Seems not to like synonyms.  I'll report this... thank you for reporting in here.

    Unknown said:
    And one final comment/question: I'm using Studio/Multiterm 2017, and it seems that in the "Default layout" option in the Termbase viewer, there is no way of selecting an input model. I've therefore switched back to "Flags layout", but unfortunately this means clicking "Save" every time I add a new term. Am I right in thinking there is no way of having the 'best of both worlds', i.e. being able to use input models AND having Multiterm automatically save any new terms I add?

    You're right... but this is a temporary situation as the problem is known (was known on release) and will be addressed with a future update.

    You've not had much luck with this post!!

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Hello Hayley: Just wondering if the FULL FORM option right below the Input Model selection is activated. I was having (I believe) a similar issue with the descriptive fields in my input model displaying only for the first term, but when I entered synonyms the input model did not display as I had designed it. By activating the 'FULL FORM' option I resolved my issue. Good luck!
  • Hi Lucy,

    That was an interesting thought... but doesn't solve the problem for me. Will be interesting to see whether Hayley has a different experience.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Hello Lucy and Paul.

    Thanks for your replies. Please can you tell me where to find the "FULL FORM" option that you mention? The closest I can see is "Full layout" as a display option in the Termbase viewer - if this is what you mean, then no, unfortunately it doesn't resolve my problem.

    Hayley
  • Hello Lucy and Paul.

    Thanks for your replies. Please can you tell me where to find the "FULL FORM" option that you mention? The closest I can see is "Full layout" as a display option in the Termbase viewer - if this is what you mean, then no, unfortunately it doesn't resolve my problem.

    Hayley
  • Hi Hayley,

    You only see this if you open the file in Multiterm which is why I don't think this is going to help you.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Hello,

    Ah yes, thank you, found it in MultiTerm. But no, as you said, it doesn't resolve my issue.

    Hayley