XLF file - <g> tags to be excluded from segments

Hi Community,

I would like to clean up an XLF file and help the segmentation a bit, as there are multiple sentences within the translation units, all added to the same segment in Studio.

I would like to amend the parser settings so the <g> tags are excluded from the segments.

Here is a sample:

<g id="rG3HWrhBpwgG-Jg0" ctype="x-html-P">
<g id="PfWMnh-oqz10lr2y" ctype="x-html-SPAN" xhtml:style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Welcome to our Cyber Security Week training course! This is your opportunity to learn how you can protect yourself wherever you are, and to refresh your understanding of cyber security topics such as 
<g id="soLH-J4KMcUGcmx9" ctype="x-html-STRONG">Phishing</g>, 
<g id="-4yEvEpngeUlciMV" ctype="x-html-STRONG">Social Engineering</g> and 
<g id="vVmwpPgsr-qHfHcC" ctype="x-html-STRONG">Information Classification</g>.</g></g>
</source>
</trans-unit>
</body>
</file>
<file original="l9vjMq2X-3LkpMPjDt8vFqEMhDeBLuGA" datatype="plaintext" source-language="en-GB">
<body>
<trans-unit id="title">
<source>Secure Working</source>
</trans-unit><trans-unit id="items|1|items|0|paragraph">
<source>
<g id="qv21OEzOZzzf7Wm1" ctype="x-html-P">
<g id="n3JOa20jwbUvaWml" ctype="x-html-SPAN" xhtml:style="font-size: 18px; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Cyber criminals are relentless in their attacks and use various tactics to try and steal our company and personal data, whether we’re working from home, in the office, in a factory or travelling. Below are some key guidelines that will help to keep you safe against cyber-crime. </g>
</g>
</g>
</source>
</trans-unit>

I added these:

<[^/]\w*[^<>]*>
<[/]\w*[^<>]*>

These are my settings:

Trados Studio settings window showing the 'Embedded content' section with options for processing content embedded in a document. The 'Tag definition' table includes the user's input for 'Start tag' and 'End tag' with 'Type' set to 'Translatable'.

(Segmentation hint: exclude)

But it's not working, the text is not broken after the tag pair.

Can you please help what I'm doing wrong?

I also tried creating a custom file type (based on XML v 1.3.0.0) where the segmentation is good but the source gets overwritten with the target in the end, and I'm not sure what to do.

Thank you!
Greta

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[edited by: Trados AI at 4:49 AM (GMT 0) on 5 Mar 2024]

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0 Paul over 2 years ago

Greta Magyar

This isn't a proper sample. Please include at least the full translation unit, and preferably a snippet of the entire file. It's hard to know why you have a problem if we can't have the full picture of the filetype. Also note you can insert the contents as code and then it renders much better in the forum:

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0 Greta Magyar over 2 years ago

Hi Paul

Thank you - I saw I missed to include the beginning of the segment., sorry.

I hope the below is better.

<xliff xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2 http://docs.oasis-open.org/xliff/v1.2/os/xliff-core-1.2-strict.xsd"
xmlns="urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2"
xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" version="1.2">
  <file original="course" datatype="plaintext" source-language="en-GB">
    <body>
      <trans-unit id="title">
        <source>Cyber Security Week ES</source>
      </trans-unit>
      <trans-unit id="description">
        <source>
          <g id="rG3HWrhBpwgG-Jg0" ctype="x-html-P">
            <g id="PfWMnh-oqz10lr2y" ctype="x-html-SPAN"
            xhtml:style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Welcome to our Cyber Security
            Week training course! This is your opportunity to learn how you can
            protect yourself wherever you are, and to refresh your
            understanding of cyber security topics such as 
            <g id="soLH-J4KMcUGcmx9" ctype="x-html-STRONG">Phishing</g>, 
            <g id="-4yEvEpngeUlciMV" ctype="x-html-STRONG">Social
            Engineering</g>and 
            <g id="vVmwpPgsr-qHfHcC" ctype="x-html-STRONG">Information
            Classification</g>.</g>
          </g>
        </source>
      </trans-unit>
    </body>
  </file>
  <file original="l9vjMq2X-3LkpMPjDt8vFqEMhDeBLuGA" datatype="plaintext"
  source-language="en-GB">
    <body>
      <trans-unit id="title">
        <source>Secure Working</source>
      </trans-unit>
      <trans-unit id="items|1|items|0|paragraph">
        <source>
          <g id="qv21OEzOZzzf7Wm1" ctype="x-html-P">
            <g id="n3JOa20jwbUvaWml" ctype="x-html-SPAN"
            xhtml:style="font-size: 18px; color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Cyber
            criminals are relentless in their attacks and use various tactics
            to try and steal our company and personal data, whether
            weâ€™re working from home, in the office, in a
            factory or travelling. Below are some key guidelines that will help
            to keep you safe against cyber-crime.</g>
          </g>
        </source>
      </trans-unit>
    </body>
  </file>
</xliff>

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+1 Paul over 2 years ago in reply to Greta Magyar
Hi Greta Magyar

Apart from the fact I can't even open this file as an XLIFF, and that I believe it's probably invalid since this the xhtml:style attribute is not allowed in the <g> element in XLIFF, you have a few problems related to what you are trying to achieve:

as it's XLIFF the source and target elements are already segmented by trans-unit

the <g> element is handled as part of the XLIFF parser and is not something you can handle separately using an embedded content processor. It's also supposed to be inline according to the XLIFF specification.

if you use a custom XML filetype then you need to populate the target element in the source file because you are essentially going to be translating the target, and not the source. So you need to add the target with a copy of the source first and then process the file with a parser rule to extract the target.
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0 Greta Magyar over 2 years ago in reply to Paul

Thank you Paul

The 3rd option works like a charm!
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0 Paul C. 8 months ago in reply to Paul

Hello Mr. Paul Filkin,
I'm in a similar situation. Could you explain how to add the <target> in the trans-unit of the source file, or point to an existing procedure?
Please and thank you!
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0 Paul 8 months ago in reply to Paul C.

Paul C.

Assuming you are not exactly in the same situation and that you really only want to now about the 3rd option then the solution is simple. Open the XLIFF in Trados Studio as a single file project; copy source to target; save the target file. Now you have an XLIFF with source and target segments and you can handle the file with a custom XML filetype.
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0 Paul C. 8 months ago in reply to Paul

That was my first impulse, but I wasn't sure that was the best way.
Thanks again!
P.S. On a personal note, I've seen your contributions over the years (it sometimes seem like you're carrying this whole forum on your shoulders!), and I'm really grateful for everything you do! Can't wait for your super filetype to work on Trados Live Team! ;-)
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0 Paul 8 months ago in reply to Paul C.

Thanks Paul C.

Paul C. said:
Can't wait for your super filetype to work on Trados Live Team! ;-)

Indeed! May not be too soon as that filetype does a lot more behind the scenes to be able to make it work. It's more than just a filetype.
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0 Christine Eulriet 8 months ago in reply to Paul C.

Hello Paul,
this is just to comment on your personal note: the way you put it reflects pretty much, I believe, what many many people think of what the other Paul does for this forum in particular but for translators in general. Remarkable.
And thank you for writing it!
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XLF file - <g> tags to be excluded from segments

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