Studio 2017 on Mac Book

Hello,

 

I am planning on buying a Mac book but I would like to hear people experience with Studio 2017 on the same.

 

I know Boot Camp allows it (without virtual machine) but I would like to know if it's user friendly or not for non-tech person.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Marie Priser

  • Hi ,

    What is your main software... or rather what do you spend most of your time working with on your laptop? Because if this is your translation software then I'm wondering why you would purchase a MAC? For that much money you could purchase an excellent windows machine and avoid the need for parallels or boot camp altogether.

    I know this doesn't answer your question but I always wonder on the buying decisions when people purchase a MAC.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Marie, Bootcamp is one option, but it's way more flexible with Parallels. It's very easy to use and install. Working with virtual machines (each file = one virtual computer) is a blessing if you have to revert your workspace to previous configuration or simply have several different tools in motion.

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  • Thank you Mr Filkin
    I just prefer Mac environment. But I don't want to use a virtual machine, hence my question about Boot Camp.
    I have a XPS 15 from late 2014. What great laptop would you recommend then?
    Thank you again.

    Marie
  • Thank you Mr Hoffmann-Delbor.


    I just prefer Mac environment. But I don't want to use a virtual machine, hence my question about Boot Camp.
    I have a XPS 15 from late 2014. What great laptop would you recommend then?
    Thank you again.

    Marie
  • Hi ,

    If you prefer it then that's the answer. But if I was looking at a new laptop I think the Dell XPS 15 is a good choice. I find it hard to justify the expense of a MAC these days as they are no longer the hardware they used to be. Prone to viruses just like windows; you need to have windows on there anyway (additional cost for parallels, windows and MS Office); specification doesn't stand out above high end laptops and on a personal thing I find them harder to use. This is probably because I simply don't know them, but I like that I feel comfortable around windows. So if a MAC is your preference because you've always used them that is the answer. I thought maybe you were switching to a MAC and I just wondered why.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Hi Marie,

    I'm using Trados Studio 2017 on a MacBook Pro 2016 and Windows 10 under Parallels 12.

    I understand that you don't want to use virtualisation but I can't understand why. With Boot Camp your Mac becomes a Windows machine and I don't see the value of it. With Boot Camp you either work under Windows 10 or macOS but not both. Virtualisation, on the other hand, is really cool and Parallels is really very easy to install and use. You install Parallels and then Windows. You don't have to be a Tech pro to do this. Today virtualisation solutions are no longer niche products for specialists and Paralels is really user friendly and fast. The advantages are you can copy and paste from Windows to Mac and vice versa. You use your Mac for everything except Studio and maybe a few other Windows programs. You can even use Studio as if it were a native Mac application. In this case you don't see anything from Windows. You can work as much as possible with macOS and related programs and benefit from the macOS advantages, e.g. using your browser under macOS. When something goes wrong, like installation of the Studio SR1, you can undo most problems by reloading the latest Snapshot or copy from Time Machine. The speed is a bit slower compared to a fast Windows machine but even though I do most projects on an external drive it is fast enough. If speed is your issue, Virtual Machines are not really slower compared to a native OS. This is because the processor is most of the time in idle mode anyway. You could even run two different Windows VMs and won't really experience speed problems.

    No matter if you use Parallels or Boot Camp your MacBook Pro should be 15" with at least 8GB (better 16GB) and 512GB or 1TB SSD. The 13" MacBooks have an inferiour CPU and graphics processor. Not much fun if you use a hires display, like the 27" 5K monitor. Would I want to go back to a Windows machine? I don't think so. I prefer the clean and uncluttered Mac environment, the excellent display and the MacBook is really nice to work with on the road. I use mainly macOS programs except Trados Studio. But without virtualisation I wouldn't use a Mac. Please clarify what makes you think virtualisation is not the right thing you?

    Cheers
    Claudia
  • I've got a MacBook Pro - and, honestly, I have never got a better laptop in my life. It costs a lot, but it's worth every penny.
    However, Trados-wise, you have to consider the following:
    First of all, you'll have to buy a copy of Windows, since it's obviously not included with a Mac computer.
    Then, installation-wise:
    Installing Windows on a Mac using a bootcamp is actually easier than installing a Windows on an average Windows PC - believe me, I did that. Don't worry, just follow the instructions of 'Boot camp assistant' you'll find on your Mac.
    However, Bootcamp has its drawbacks.
    1) you'll have to restart your Mac every time you want Windows.
    2) in a standard configuration, you'll have no access whatsoever to the Mac partition from Windows (unless you install additional paid software), and you'll only have a read-only access from macOS to the Windows partition.
    3) You'll have to keep two copies of all of your clouds (oneDrive, Dropbox etc.), one copy for mac, and another for Windows.
    4) You won't be able to resize your partitions (unless you buy a third-party software that allows you to do it.), so if your Windows partition becomes too 'tight', the only option available to you will be to delete it completely and recreate it from scratch.

    So I prefer Parallels. It's a VM, very user-friendly and so far it hasn't given me any problem.
    Trados 2017 DOES work in Parallels without any problem (some Trados help page mentions that you have to disable shared access of Windows to Mac folders, but again it works in my case.)
    Parallels drawbacks? It's a paid program (USD 79 (permanent licence) for a Home version that has limitations on the number of processors and RAM, max mount being 4 processors and 8 GB of RAM; there's a pro version at USD 99 / year) - and that's it.

    Just don't expect you'll be able to reduce Mac partition to a minimum and just stick to Windows (that's what I thought when I was buying my MBP) Once you start your mac for the first time, you'll want to stay on Mac - it's contagious. 
    That is another reason I recommend Parallels - because it allows you to work with any Windows program as if it were a Mac program.