Curly Quotes

Studio 2017 Freelance 14.1.10011.20356 / Windows 7 Home Premium version 6.1

Despite having set my preferences to “curly quotes”, single quotes are still typed straight on some occasions, for example when writing “J’ai”. It’s quite random: sometimes “J’ai” will write with a curly quote and sometimes with a straight quote.

For example in this screenshot, you can see that the first two apostrophes are curly, the next two are straight and the last two are curly. I didn’t do anything but type normally.

Screenshot of Trados Studio 2017 showing inconsistent use of curly and straight single quotes in the text 'J'ai'. The first two apostrophes are curly, the next two are straight, and the last two are curly.

 

Judging from this thread community.sdl.com/.../9267, people were already experiencing this bug with the 2015 version. Any solution since then? Thank you.



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[edited by: Trados AI at 1:41 PM (GMT 0) on 28 Feb 2024]
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  • Hi , can you provide the text you try to type and the exact language pair you are using? I can't read your screenshot at all.

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  • Good morning Paul. Sorry about the screenshot, it was a copy of an image copied in a Word file so may not have worked properly. I attach a Word document with it, I hope it works.

    I translate from English into French. I've noticed that quotes don't always write curly (despite me selecting that option in Studio options). It seems very random (although I think I've noticed it mainly when the quote is an apostrophe, i.e. attached to a letter). In my example I typed "j'ai" six times; the first two are curly, the next two are straight and the last two are curly. I didn’t do anything but type normally. It's a little detail, but it means I must do a search to replace any straight quote with a curly one at the end of every single translation.

     

    Curly Quotes.docx

  • Morning ,

    I wonder if you also use autohotkey perhaps? I know many translators use this for things like correction of smart quotes and there may be a clash... just guessing really. I tried to reproduce this and I do have a problem with the first one which may be related to to autocorrection of the initial capital, but after that every one of them is a curly quote.

    I'll report my findings because I think I can reproduce it and if you can add any other information that might help to reproduce the problem you're having I'll add that to the report as well.

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  • No I don't use autohotkey. I can't think of any extra information to add. The problem happens when the quote is an apostrophe in French (j', d', l', qu', s', n'), whether with a capital letter or not, but it seems random as sometimes the quote gets written straight as shown in my example.

    I'm not sure this is worth wasting too much time on, but it's one of those small details that can be a little tedious in long documents.

  • Hi  ,

    ok - I wondered if AHK (autohotkey) might have been clashing with Studio. I will still log this for some investigation but in the meantime perhaps you could use AHK? If you turn off the Studio feature and use AHK instead it might solve your problem. You could do this a couple of ways. One way is to use the approach in this article (last part of the article as it's quite old):

    multifarious.filkin.com/.../

    The other way is simply use something like this in the script for all the types of usecases you have:

    ::j'::j‘
    ::d'::d‘
    ::l'::l‘
    ::qu'::qu‘
    ::s'::s‘
    ::n'::n‘

    etc. The idea being when you type those sequences AHK will replace them automatically with a curly apostrophe. Might remove that tedious process of replacing manually afterwards.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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