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Studio 2019 vs 2017 - a few questions

Piotr Bienkowski

Hi,

 

Just installed Studio 2019 and took a peek. I have a few questions:

  1. Do translation memories used in Studio 2017 need any upgrading to ver. 2019?
  2. Can I open the 2017 project templates directly in 2019 or will it break them? (I understand that I can use the migration utility to migrate them).
  3. Can I open projects created in Studio 2017 in Studio 2019 or will it break them? WIll they be backward-compatible if I open and save them in Studio 2019?

Thanks,

Piotr
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    Unknown said:
    Do translation memories used in Studio 2017 need any upgrading to ver. 2019?

    No

    Unknown said:
    Can I open the 2017 project templates directly in 2019 or will it break them? (I understand that I can use the migration utility to migrate them).

    You can't use the project migration utility to migrate templates.  It's always a good idea to recreate your templates because otherwise you potentially introduce legacy problems into the newer product.  There are also new features between versions and if you use the old template you create projects without access to the latest stuff.

    Unknown said:
    Can I open projects created in Studio 2017 in Studio 2019 or will it break them? WIll they be backward-compatible if I open and save them in Studio 2019?

    Yes you can. But as you can use Studio 2017 for as long as you like this time around it makes sense to finish them off in 2017 and start new ones in 2019.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • 0 in reply to Paul
    Hi Paul,
    I have just installed Studio 2019 and used it on one job. Looking at one of my main TMs, It recommended an upgrade (red triangle in TM view). I ran it and it came up with this error while re-indexing:
    ***
    Process failed (02/08/2018 09:38:13)
    Sdl.LanguagePlatform.Core.LanguagePlatformException: The translation memory data file engine returned an error:
    constraint failed
    UNIQUE constraint failed: translation_unit_contexts.translation_unit_id, translation_unit_contexts.left_source_context, translation_unit_contexts.left_target_context
    at Sdl.LanguagePlatform.TranslationMemoryApi.FileBasedTranslationMemoryLanguageDirection.ReindexTranslationUnits(RegularIterator& iterator)
    at Sdl.TranslationStudio.Common.TranslationMemory.TranslationMemoryAutomation.Jobs.ReIndexTranslationMemoryJobRequest.Execute(IJobExecutionContext context)
    ***
    The upgrade (first routine) appears to have completed and the TM opened OK.
    I tried another re-index, same error.
    Next, I closed 2019 and went back to Studio 2017, where I was able to re-index the same TM successfully.
    Any thoughts, please?

    PS I was hoping for some drag & drop mouse functionality in 2019 - no change there, not impressed!
    Thanks and all the best
  • 0 in reply to Michael Friedli
    Hi ,

    If you have a support contract then you should definitely be logging this with support. If not then can you provide me with the TM so I can investigate this?

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • 0 in reply to Paul
    Hi Paul,
    Thanks for that - I have sent the TM (plus an older, not upgraded version) via WeTransfer.
    I don't have a support & maintenance contract.
    Best
  • 0 in reply to Michael Friedli

    Unknown said:

    The translation memory data file engine returned an error:

    constraint failed

    UNIQUE constraint failed: translation_unit_contexts.translation_unit_id, translation_unit_contexts.left_source_context, translation_unit_contexts.left_target_context

    Hi Michael

    I have the same issue with several of my TMs, also in Studio 2019.

    Error dialog box in Trados Studio showing 'The translation memory data file engine returned an error: constraint failed UNIQUE constraint failed: translation_unit_contexts.translation_unit_id, translation_unit_contexts.left_source_context, translation_unit_contexts.left_target_context'.

    Did you find a solution to this problem? (I don’t have a contract either)

    Alexa
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  • 0 in reply to Alexa Dubreuil-Storer
    Hi

    This a fairly uncommon problem caused by a bug in 2017 where it should be ensuring CM info doesn’t get lost when reindexing due a tokenization change. (Formerly, if you did something like switched off Number recognizer, then reindexed TM content, you’d no longer get CMs where the context involved a number; now the reindex converts the CM hashes.) Under certain rare circumstances that’s causing a constraint violation because the code is trying to update a CM entry but there’s another CM entry that already has the same hash values.

    2017 just ignores the CM info loss whereas 2019 does not.

    The best solution is to create a new TM in Studio 2019 and then import a TMX created with 2017 into the new TM, or upgrade the TM in Studio 2017 first and then use it in 2019. Fortunately 2017 can still be used with 2019 so it should be a one-off workaround.

    Regards

    Paul

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • 0 in reply to Alexa Dubreuil-Storer
    Hi

    This a fairly uncommon problem caused by a bug in 2017 where it should be ensuring CM info doesn’t get lost when reindexing due a tokenization change. (Formerly, if you did something like switched off Number recognizer, then reindexed TM content, you’d no longer get CMs where the context involved a number; now the reindex converts the CM hashes.) Under certain rare circumstances that’s causing a constraint violation because the code is trying to update a CM entry but there’s another CM entry that already has the same hash values.

    2017 just ignores the CM info loss whereas 2019 does not.

    The best solution is to create a new TM in Studio 2019 and then import a TMX created with 2017 into the new TM, or upgrade the TM in Studio 2017 first and then use it in 2019. Fortunately 2017 can still be used with 2019 so it should be a one-off workaround.

    Regards

    Paul

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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    You've done the courses and still need to go a little further, or still not clear? 
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