Hi Dennis Friis

I'm somewhat confused reading this. If you are the one translating Studio does not update from the TM User ID under File -> Setup -> Users at all.  This is only information related to the users you send packages to.

Studio uses your windows user name.  The only time it doesn't is if you run the update TM batch task and you changed the TM User ID that is to be used for the updates in here:

Hi Paul Filkin,

Actually, Studio does update from the TM User ID under Files -> Setup -> Users as a general rule. However, the info stored under Files -> Setup -> Users is exactly the same TM User ID shown in the Project Settings > … > Translation Memory Updates > TM User ID… (in your screenshot). If you change the TM User ID one of these places, it is changed the other place, too.

I tested different scenarios. And basically, Studio does this:

• Scenario 1:
  Targets segment is empty; no match OR a fuzzy match found in the enabled TM
  -> Studio uses the TM User ID you have stored under User Settings.
  
  
• Scenario 2:
  Target segment already contains a translation (e.g. after you have run a pretranslation); the segment status is set to ’Confirmed’
  -> in this case, the enabled TM (different from the TM you used for the pretranslation) is updated with the user information from the bilingual file (it does not matter, whether you have or have not enabled ’using information from bilingual file to update TU system fields’ in the Project Settings or in the General Settings under File -> Options -> ….
  
  
• Scenario 3:
  You add a translation as a new (extra) translation
  -> either your Windows user name OR a random old previously used TM User ID is used by Studio.
  
  
• And finally Scenario 4:
  You choose to edit a match in Translation Results window
  -> either your Windows user name OR a random old previously used TM User ID is used by Studio.

Hi Paul Filkin,

Actually, Studio does update from the TM User ID under Files -> Setup -> Users as a general rule. However, the info stored under Files -> Setup -> Users is exactly the same TM User ID shown in the Project Settings > … > Translation Memory Updates > TM User ID… (in your screenshot). If you change the TM User ID one of these places, it is changed the other place, too.

I tested different scenarios. And basically, Studio does this:

• Scenario 1:
  Targets segment is empty; no match OR a fuzzy match found in the enabled TM
  -> Studio uses the TM User ID you have stored under User Settings.
  
  
• Scenario 2:
  Target segment already contains a translation (e.g. after you have run a pretranslation); the segment status is set to ’Confirmed’
  -> in this case, the enabled TM (different from the TM you used for the pretranslation) is updated with the user information from the bilingual file (it does not matter, whether you have or have not enabled ’using information from bilingual file to update TU system fields’ in the Project Settings or in the General Settings under File -> Options -> ….
  
  
• Scenario 3:
  You add a translation as a new (extra) translation
  -> either your Windows user name OR a random old previously used TM User ID is used by Studio.
  
  
• And finally Scenario 4:
  You choose to edit a match in Translation Results window
  -> either your Windows user name OR a random old previously used TM User ID is used by Studio.

Are you using a server TM or local TM?
I have a similar question when using a server TM.

When I use "Add as New Translation" on a server TM, my translation is added to the TM with my login user name for the server, instead of my TM User ID. 
When I simply press Ctrl+Enter to add my translation, the translation is added with my TM User ID.

On a local TM, I think, this problem does not occur even if I use "Add as New Translation".

Hi Sakura Y,

Thanks for your reply. :-) It's much appreciated.

Yes - I am using a server TM. That must be the explanation for this peculiarity.

BR,

Dennis

By the way, Sakura Y, what about scenario 2 and 4 above - are you also experiencing the same behaviour here?

Paul Filkin, will you have a look at this?

Hi Dennis Friis

I didn't respond to you yet because it looked like too much confusion for me to get my head around quickly... needed some time to look at this carefully.  First of all I don't think Studio should be using File Setup -> Users for the TM updates when you are translating at all.  I have now been playing with this a little and to be honest I would not of ewxpected it to behave this way at all for two reasons:

1. The description says this:
   
   This is all about the users you work with and not your own user ID
2. This may be even more important... Projects are supposed to be unique to themselves.  So once a project has been created any changes in the global settings anywhere should not reflect on unique settings for the project.

But here, I can see that by adding myself as a user (which is the odd approach I would not of thought of) actually causes all my projects to use whatever ID I put in there.  In fact changing it in a project even changes all the other projects too.

This, in my opinion is a bug and should be addressed.  I'll report this to the appropriate teams and let you know what the feedback is.  Could be they won't agree with me, but it certainly seems like unwanted behaviour to me.  I think it would make sense to have a separate option for your own TM User ID so you can control it as needed, and with the ability to use a different ID on each project.

Hi Paul Filkin,

Thanks a lot for looking into this and getting back to me.  And thanks for reporting this bug to the relevant teams in order to have it fixed.

It this connection, it would really be great, if the developer team could take into consideration to create a separate option that would allow you as a user to you easily select between different TM User IDs (pre-defined by yourself) and to select the specific TM User ID that you wanted to use for updating TUs in a specific project (BOTH when running the batch task ’Update Main Translation Memories’ AND in connection with interactive translation).

Could you also have a look at ’Scenario 2’ above?

Scenario 2:

If you use TM1 to pre-translate a file, and you then enable a different TM (TM2) in the Project Settings, go to a given segment and press Ctrl + Alt + Enter in order to confirm the translation in the target field, the user info from TM1 is mysteriously used to update the user info fields of the newly stored segment in TM2. The user info is in this case NOT your own TM User ID.