Johanna Mauch

I don't think you can download them.  You can export the individual resources in the template and then recreate, but for some reason there is no export of the template itself.  Phillip Maieski may be able to suggest something here.

Johanna Mauch said:

However, I find it cumbersome to make the same changes (segmentation rules, ordinal followers, abbreviations) manually for every alignment project and would rather like to use some kind of template, preferentially the existing language resource template for the target language

Why don't you create a TM just for using in alignment projects?  The Language Resource Template is held on a TM.  You might also find this app is useful as it makes life much easier working with Language Resource Templates:

https://multifarious.filkin.com/2019/03/04/apply-a-tm-template/

Thanks, Paul.

While it is possible to export the lists in the template, it is not possible to import them but in the language resource template in GroupShare. In the language resource window when creating a TM you can only open the lists and add entries manually (not even copy and paste works).

I then recreated my German language resource template and linked it to the English-German TM I was creating, but the template overwrote the correct and adapted English settings.

So the only way I found to achieve my goal was to manually adapt the ordinal follower and abreviation lists and the Segmentation rules when creating the TM. Now I can at least use that TM as a Basis for further TMs.

There should be a way to do this that does not require so much manual and time-consuming work.

I will have a look at the app you mentioned. But It should not require an app to be able to export/import language resource templates. And at least for Align it should be possible to import a language resource template for both the source and the target language.

Thanks, Paul.

While it is possible to export the lists in the template, it is not possible to import them but in the language resource template in GroupShare. In the language resource window when creating a TM you can only open the lists and add entries manually (not even copy and paste works).

I then recreated my German language resource template and linked it to the English-German TM I was creating, but the template overwrote the correct and adapted English settings.

So the only way I found to achieve my goal was to manually adapt the ordinal follower and abreviation lists and the Segmentation rules when creating the TM. Now I can at least use that TM as a Basis for further TMs.

There should be a way to do this that does not require so much manual and time-consuming work.

I will have a look at the app you mentioned. But It should not require an app to be able to export/import language resource templates. And at least for Align it should be possible to import a language resource template for both the source and the target language.

Johanna Mauch said:

I will have a look at the app you mentioned. But It should not require an app to be able to export/import language resource templates. And at least for Align it should be possible to import a language resource template for both the source and the target language.

I totally agree Johanna Mauch.  I don't think this part of the software has received enough attention which is one reason we developed the app.

Hi Johanna,

export/import language resource template settings like abbreviation lists between GroupShare and file-based TMs is something which had been on the ETUG wish-list years ago but unfortunately has never made into the product as core feature...

Johanna Mauch said:

a way to download language resource templates

Have you thought/tested to create file-based TMs on the basis of the GroupShare server TMs which contain the desired language resource? Because the file-based TM would inherit all the GroupShare TM settings including language resources. These file-based TMs would need to be created individually per language pair. Or you set up a temporary multilingual project with all the desired target languages, add the server TMs and select the "Populate Project Translation Memories" batch task in order to batch create file-based project TMs for all relevant languages. You can retrieve the project TMs from the Studio project folder and copy it to a different TM folder that you can use for the alignment.

Johanna Mauch said:

some kind of project template for alignment projects as in WinAlign

I fully agree with you (and Paul) that the alignment configuration settings require improvement.

As far as I know, an alignment project takes at least some of its settings (like file types - whose settings can also impact the segmentation) from the currently active project (or is it the default project template that is selected highlighted under Setup - Templates?).
Before doing an alignment, I therefore deliberately create/set my active project to one that contains my preferred file type setting for the corresponding alignment project.
But I think the TM used for the alignment always has to be selected separately.
And I have always wondered why there is not a clearer and better link between the alignment and the project settings that should be used (file type and TM).

I would prefer to be able to set up an alignment project from the the "normal" project creation wizard so that I have the full overview and control of which file types, TMs and other settings are used.

Kind regards

Christine

Thanks, Christine, for your reply and the suggested workarounds. I will give them a try.

Johanna

I might have found a workaround for my specific problem related to language resources and alignments without having to use an app. I created a Language Resource Template that contains both English and German and then a "multilingual" server TM for German/English and English-German. When creating a new file-based TM for an alignment, I can now base that TM on the multilingual server TM and the respective language resource template. It is not perfect, but so far it seems to be working as desired.

Good idea Johanna Mauch... glad you managed to find a way forward that works for you.