How to ensure that emoji survive Trados

Hello

I have two test files (UTF8 and UTF16-LE) with some text and emoji in it. When I open these in Trados, Trados *loses* most of the emoji by replacing them with actual ordinary spaces in the SDLXLIFF file.  If I do copy-source-to-target and generate the target files, these emoji are no longer present, having been replaced with spaces.  For example, U+1F603 is replaced with U+0020 (and the same goes for many other emoji characters).

What must I do, when opening file in Trados, to ensure that these characters survive?

The test files are here: www.leuce.com/.../emojitrados.zip

Thanks

Samuel

Trados Studio interface showing categories of emojis such as Smileys & People, Animals & Nature, and Food & Drink.



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  • I'm afraid this article still applies:

    gateway.sdl.com/.../communityknowledge

    Note it's not Unicode itself that's the problem, it's just the range that's used for emoji's.

    www.unicode.org/.../emoji-data.txt

    I also don't see a fix date for this yet but the more people ask for it the more likely it is to happen. I added this to the ideas site so you can vote for it, point others to it too, and this might help to prioritise the work:

    https://community.sdl.com/ideas/translation-productivity-ideas/i/trados-studio-ideas/support-for-emoji-in-trados-studio

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • I think support for emoji is less urgent than support for an error message telling the user that the file he's trying to load into Trados contain characters that Trados will break/delete/remove/replace with spaces.

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    Certainly in Trados Studio 2022 we have full emoji support.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • So it's just a matter of upgrading. Thanks, Paul!

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    Keep in mind that we'll still only render them as a tag, like this:

    Screenshot of Trados Studio showing a list of emoji categories with correct rendering in a .docx file.

    But the target is fine, like this... so nothing lost

    Close-up view of emoji categories with corresponding emojis displayed correctly next to the text.

    It may depend on filetype though.  I noted  had a txt file in his sample set.  So I also tested that one (UTF-8 with BOM, SegoeUI font) and I think we may have a bug in that.  But for other filetypes I looked at it seems fine

    Screenshot of Trados Studio displaying a list of emoji categories with incorrect rendering, showing question mark symbols in a .txt file.

     fyi.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • Thanks so much, Paul. Will upgrade and see how that works, including in the 2024 release.

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  •     So, I bought Studio 2022 last night and began translating—on the online editor—the editable PDF file with emoticons. Half way through checked the preview and target docx file and confirmed the emoticons are not retained, they are gone. Here and there both browser preview and target Word file do show two emoticons not found in the source file (something resembling Aladdin's lamp, colored pink in the HTML view and black in the Word file; and black hearts). Other than that, elsewhere in place of the source emoticon there is a blank space. I'll appreciate any suggestions. 

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    You have to provide us with a sample file to test.  I'm sure you are reporting your findings, but we can only address things if we can reproduce them ourselves and understand the reason for the problem.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • Thanks so much, Paul. How can I provide you with a sample (redacted) file for testing?

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  • Dear Paul,

    Is there a way to work with this "emoji" tag in Trados in terms of segmentation rules, searching, and similar? Not sure if it's clear enough, so I'll give an example: I'd like this tag to split a line of text if the tag is followed by a space and an uppercase letter.

    This is sentence number one <emoji> This is sentence number two and it should be in a separate segment

    This sentence should not be split <emoji> as there is no uppercase letter after the emoji

    Any idea about this?

    Thank you in advance!

    Jan

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    Need a sample file (that means a couple of sentences!) to be sure how to tackle this.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • Dear Paul,

    Thank you for getting back to me. I am attaching a small sample file. I have added comments to each sentence so it's clear what is the expected result.

    Thank you!

    Jan

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  • Dear Paul,

    Thank you for getting back to me. I am attaching a small sample file. I have added comments to each sentence so it's clear what is the expected result.

    Thank you!

    Jan

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