I'm trying to force segmentation in xlz files which contain a lot of strings like this one:
...Joseph Lubin.[5] In 2014,
where Trados doesn't seem to want to segment at the fullstop. I tried a pair of before and after segmentation rules like this:
. .\[*\]
.\[*\] .
but nothing seems to happen. Clearly I'm doing something wrong - again :)
Did you really mean .XLZ files?
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Did you really mean .XLZ files?
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Yes. It's basically a zipped xlf file
Thanks... I know what it is, but this is most likely why you have a problem. XLIFF is resegmentable if it only contains source text. Once translations are added, the file becomes fixed-segmentation and segmentation changes are no longer possible without affecting the target content. Most CAT tools that respect XLIFF will not resegment a bilingual XLIFF. For example:
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<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<xliff version="1.2" xmlns="urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2">
<file source-language="en-GB" target-language="de-DE" datatype="plaintext" original="file.txt">
<body>
<trans-unit id="1">
<source>One of the key figures was Vitalik Buterin.[3] In 2013,</source>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="2">
<source>The project gained momentum with the help of Gavin Wood.[7] In 2015,</source>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="3">
<source>Among the early contributors was Charles Hoskinson.[2] In 2016,</source>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="4">
<source>Leadership soon included Aya Miyaguchi.[4] In 2018,</source>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="5">
<source>Another notable participant was Elizabeth Stark.[6] In 2017,</source>
</trans-unit>
</body>
</file>
</xliff>
If I preview this file, a monolingual XLIFF, I get this:
I can use a simple rule on the filetype to make the [nr] an excluded tag (which is probably what will help you):
(?<=\.)\[\d+\]
This gets me:
But if I try it with a bilingual:
<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<xliff version="1.2" xmlns="urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2">
<file source-language="en-GB" target-language="de-DE" datatype="plaintext" original="file.txt">
<body>
<trans-unit id="1">
<source>One of the key figures was Vitalik Buterin.[3] In 2013,</source>
<target>Eine der Schlüsselfiguren war Vitalik Buterin.[3] Im Jahr 2013,</target>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="2">
<source>The project gained momentum with the help of Gavin Wood.[7] In 2015,</source>
<target>Das Projekt gewann mit Hilfe von Gavin Wood an Dynamik.[7] Im Jahr 2015,</target>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="3">
<source>Among the early contributors was Charles Hoskinson.[2] In 2016,</source>
<target>Zu den frühen Mitwirkenden gehörte Charles Hoskinson.[2] Im Jahr 2016,</target>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="4">
<source>Leadership soon included Aya Miyaguchi.[4] In 2018,</source>
<target>Zur Führung gehörte bald Aya Miyaguchi.[4] Im Jahr 2018,</target>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="5">
<source>Another notable participant was Elizabeth Stark.[6] In 2017,</source>
<target>Eine weitere bemerkenswerte Teilnehmerin war Elizabeth Stark.[6] Im Jahr 2017,</target>
</trans-unit>
</body>
</file>
</xliff>
I'll get this:
This is because the segmentation takes place on the source, so if the target is already populated Studio doesn't know what to do with it, so refuses the segmentation.
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Thanks Paul - this huge batch happens to be monolingual, so that would do me for now. But which file type exactly do I add this exclusion to and how? Also, is it likely to mess up segmentation of other stuff?
You add it to the XLIFF filetype as this supports localisation zips as well.
Also, is it likely to mess up segmentation of other stuff?
Not if you create a project template and create your projects with this requirement using that specific template. That way you can have different settings for the same filetype for different customers/use cases.
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Under Embedded Content? It looks like the only place where I could add that eye-watering thing above. But it's greyed out
But it's greyed out
Simply because you have not enabled the "Embedded Content" which is what this panel is all about. Also make sure you check "Extract in all paragraphs".
that eye-watering thing above
(?<=\.)\[\d+\]This pattern matches text like [123], but only if it is immediately preceded by a full stop (.).
(?<=\.)This is a positive lookbehind.
It asserts that what immediately precedes the match is a literal full stop ..
The (?<=...) part is a zero-width assertion — it checks the condition, but doesn’t include it in the match.
So: it matches only if the preceding character is a full stop, but the full stop is not included in the match.
\[Matches a literal opening square bracket [.
Square brackets have a special meaning in regex (they define character classes), so to match a literal bracket, it must be escaped with a backslash (\).
\d+\d matches any digit (equivalent to [0-9]).
+ means one or more.
Together, \d+ matches any number with at least one digit — e.g. 1, 42, 1000.
\]Matches a literal closing square bracket ], again escaped because ] also has special meaning in regex.
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Smashin, that works a treat, thanks very much!
Thanks also for the explanation but I stand by 'eye watering' - there's a reason I'm a very good translator, rather than a software dev 