Navigating a TM: Last Page button?

Hello all,

When navigating a recently created TM, I wanted to move immediately to the last page of the translation memory, but I only see 3 buttons: First page, Previous Page and Next Page. I can't see a Last Page button. How come?

Thanks,

Pepe

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Navigating a TM: Last Page button? Hello all, When navigating a recently created TM, I wanted to move immediately to the last page of the translation memory, but I only see 3 buttons: First page, Previous Page and Next Page. I can't see a Last Page button. How come? Thanks, Pepe
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0 Paul over 8 years ago

Hi Pepe,

This is one of those little things that seems so obvious, and easy! Unfortunately whilst it is obvious, it's not easy! I don't really know exactly why this is so hard, but apparently it is, otherwise it would have been done.

You did make me think though as the APIs have moved on a lot since the early days so perhaps we might be able to have a different way of dealing with this. No promises but we'll take a look through the AppStore development team next week and see what could be possible in the future.

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Paul

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0 Travis Loveless over 7 years ago in reply to Paul

Hi Paul,

Do you know if anything has been done to update this?
I am having similar frustrations to Pepe.
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0 Paul over 7 years ago in reply to Travis Loveless

Hi Travis Loveless ,

Nothing has been done to update this. All I can suggest is that you vote for these ideas:

community.sdl.com/.../tm-management-tool

community.sdl.com/.../viewing-more-than-200-segments-in-a-tm-and-jumping-to-last-segment

community.sdl.com/.../navigation-improvement-to-translation-memory-editor

community.sdl.com/.../tm-maintenance-editor-with-more-options

They all come fairly high up in the list of those voted for, but the more votes they see the more likely they are to be worked on.

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0 Travis Loveless over 7 years ago in reply to Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks for that extensive list.
I voted for all of them!

Best,

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0 Bruce Campbell over 7 years ago in reply to Travis Loveless

I think Paul's response will be that the Studio UI is obsolete and needs to be recoded -- but SDL has higher priorities.

Such as keeping up with the competition by introducing fragment matching.

I have to admit that I am at the point where I feel like suggesting the opposite of a group purchase, i.e. Studio users volunteering to make a one-time donation to SDL so they can afford to get over the massive coding backlog that has built up.

That includes replacing the old Studio UI, which I believe Paul said is already several decades old.

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0 Travis Loveless over 7 years ago in reply to Bruce Campbell

Bruce,

Yes, it often runs like it is several decades old so that makes sense.
Unfortunately, we already pay thousands of dollars for SDL's service and expect basic features, like a "go to last page" button.
If it were freeware, I think donating could be considered, but they already charge large sums for their service.
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0 Travis Loveless over 7 years ago in reply to Bruce Campbell

Bruce,

That would be awesome if they did re-code it.
I think there are a lot of finicky things like this that come up that would be good if they were fixed.

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0 Bruce Campbell over 7 years ago in reply to Travis Loveless

Hi Travis,

I actually find the price of Studio upgrades reasonable.

I purchased Studio in 2009 for a little more than CAD 600. The upgrades for the 7 years from 2010 to 2017 have cost me an average of CAD 80 per year.

I cannot complain about this.

I will probably be criticized by many Studio users for saying this, but Studio is valuable enough to me that I would be willing to pay a higher annual upgrade fee.

The annual upgrades for Dragon Professional Individual, a similarly large and productive application, have been running about CAD 100 per year. (The initial price was lower than for Studio.)

My average annual cost for computer hardware is more than this.

Of course I would prefer to get everything free, but sometimes one has to think about the price as a reward to the company for providing valuable goods or services. Without payment, those companies cannot survive.

If SDL had more revenue to pay more coders to get rid of the coding backlog and bring the application up-to-date then I am sure that Studio would be worth much, much more to me than the product is in its current buggy and out-of-date condition.

In other words, I believe that a higher upgrade fee would be rewarded by making the product much more valuable.

So, I was actually quite serious.

If we continue paying the current upgrade price for Studio then we will probably be complaining forever about Studio being buggy and out-of-date.

SDL might be able to convince its user base to pay slightly more each year if the product was not so buggy and out-of-date. (Classic chicken-and-egg problem.)

I think if we could somehow arrange for enough Studio users to make a one-time donation to pay for additional coding, then SDL might be able to put Studio into decent enough shape that we would all be willing to pay a slightly higher annual fee. (I.e. get Studio into good enough condition to solve the chicken-and-egg problem.)

Of course, I don't know how big the Studio user base is. Maybe there aren't enough users to make such a plan viable.

Or maybe we are all so cheap that we prefer using a bug-ridden program instead of paying slightly more.

I can dream anyway :-)

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0 Travis Loveless over 7 years ago in reply to Bruce Campbell

Hi Bruce,

Rethinking it, that is actually an interesting idea.
If they did do a fundraiser type thing, that would incur only a one-time cost, instead of forcing everyone to pay a higher price.

And it sounds like individual licenses are much cheaper, as you said.
I am coming from a corporate license package perspective, which have annual fees that are not so cheap.

That is an interesting question, too. I wonder how big their customer base is.
I know they are the leaders in the industry, but I wonder how many users and corporations this involves.

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0 Bruce Campbell over 7 years ago in reply to Bruce Campbell

Instead of a donation, another way to entice one-time funding from users might be to treat the money as investment capital with a potential return.

The ultimate goal would still be to make Studio valuable enough for SDL to increase the future annual upgrade price.

Users would be taking a risk by giving SDL some capital, but if SDL could increase its future user base or future upgrade fees, then it could afford to reward the users who made this possible by giving them a discount on future upgrades for a number of years.

But with no guarantee.

In the worst case, i.e. if SDL gets Studio up-to-date but does not increase its user base or is unable to increase future upgrade fees, then the users would not receive anything back for their "investment".

In other words, in the worst case the money would essentially turn out to be a "donation" instead of an investment with returns.

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0 Bruce Campbell over 7 years ago in reply to Bruce Campbell

Instead of a donation, another way to entice one-time funding from users might be to treat the money as investment capital with a potential return.

The ultimate goal would still be to make Studio valuable enough for SDL to increase the future annual upgrade price.

Users would be taking a risk by giving SDL some capital, but if SDL could increase its future user base or future upgrade fees, then it could afford to reward the users who made this possible by giving them a discount on future upgrades for a number of years.

But with no guarantee.

In the worst case, i.e. if SDL gets Studio up-to-date but does not increase its user base or is unable to increase future upgrade fees, then the users would not receive anything back for their "investment".

In other words, in the worst case the money would essentially turn out to be a "donation" instead of an investment with returns.

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Bruce Campbell
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