Hi Maria,

Unknown said:

"The external real-time preview in Word will only work with the new .docx file type."

- Is this latest remark referred to the type of source file I receive from the customer or to the MS Office version installed on my pc (Office 2013)?

This refers to the Studio filetype.  Studio uses these three types:

If you prepare your projects using anything other than the "WordprocessingML" filetype which is the latest one then it won't work.  So just make sure this is the one at the top.  In the screenshot I have *.DOC at the top, and then the new Word filetype above the old one for the *.DOCX files.

Unknown said:

The files I receive from the customer are sdlxliff files prepared using SSL Studio 2014 and based on an Office 2010 file format (typically *.docx but of the old type, that is Word 2007 v 2.0.0.0.). 

- Is there any possibility I could see the real-time preview having Office 2013 on my pc?

Probably not, unless you have installed the Professional Version of Office with the MSI installer.

Unknown said:

- If I should use Office 2016, could I obtain a real-time preview in Trados or does this possibility only depend on the type of file prepared by the customer?

It depends on the Studio filetype used to prepare the project as mentioned above.

Unknown said:

- For a real-time preview within Studio 2017, is the difference between MSI Installer rather than click-to-run Office installation is still valid for Office 2016 ?

The difference here refers to whether you can use the Embedded or the HTML previews.

Unknown said:

- Furthermore, I don't  understand how many types of preview can be displayed and what is an "embedded preview".

Embedded - this uses MS Word in the preview itself.  So a perfect rendition of the file you are translating.

HTML - this is an HTML rendition of the Word file.  Not bad and good enough in most cases.  But lacks the quality of the embedded preview for complex files.

Microsoft Word - this just opens the file in Microsoft Word and highlights the source you are in.

In practice the last one is a good option because once the file is open you just use the shortcut Ctrl+R to refresh it and you see the proper file with the active segment highlighted whenever you need to review it.  If you have this on another screen it works pretty well.

Hope this all helps!

So in practical terms for those of us who mostly work through agencies, previewing only works if we have Office installations performed with a conventional installation CD. Right?
I assume this means that if we want to use the latest and greatest from Microsoft, we need to buy Office 2016 Professional. Right here as well?

In a perfect world, it would be enough to speak to someone at an agency, explain the problem and inform them of how to fix it. I know from years of trying to convince project managers to consistently merge files in multiple-file jobs, that trying to get them to use a different filter would be pointless. The only way we'll receive correctly configured packages is when the agencies no longer have the option of doing it the old way.

Any chance of removing the old filters in upcoming releases?

EDIT: Working with a single screen, the external option isn't that practical since it is usually obscured whenever you switch programs.

Hi Joel,

Late response... sorry about that.  But I really thought all your questions were already answered above.

Unknown said:

So in practical terms for those of us who mostly work through agencies, previewing only works if we have Office installations performed with a conventional installation CD. Right?

Wrong. You just can't use the embedded real time preview as explained above.

Unknown said:

I assume this means that if we want to use the latest and greatest from Microsoft, we need to buy Office 2016 Professional. Right here as well?

Wrong. Unless you really want the embedded realtime preview.

Unknown said:

Any chance of removing the old filters in upcoming releases?

I think if you worked for us Joel you'd get us all shot!!  We're forever in trouble for not supporting some old release somewhere, and also for not supporting the latest and greatest even if it's only in preview mode.  The price we pay for trying to be all things to all men as much as is practically possible.  Having said this we do drop support for some applications, but Word is one of these formats that continues to get used even in RTF format.

Regards

Paul

Hi Maria,

Unknown said:

It seems that without an MSI-installed version of Office on your pc, it is impossible to see a real-time preview.

This is incorrect.  I thought you'd got this after the last one.  Without the MSI-installed you will not be able to get an embedded preview.  You can still use the HTML rendition.

Regards

Paul

:)

Well good thing I don't work for you.

I really like the embedded preview for Office documents and I can get it regardless of the filter used by my customer agencies as long as I have an installation of Office 2007 onboard. This despite having a full installation of Office 365. No problems after more than a year of use other than never being quite sure which version a file will open in when I double-click it. The main thing for me (since I primarily work with Office files) is that embedded previewing works for all versions of Word and PowerPoint files with this setup.

Am currently working with an InDesign file and even though I've been along for multiple Trados versions, I have never thought to use the Print preview command to preview InDesign translations in HTML format. And yes, it works quite well.

I've now added the Print preview command to the View ribbon, and changed the command name to the more descriptive Preview in HTML.

Hi, I am really sorry to come back with this issue, but unforntunately this is still a real problem to me. My misunderstanding is probably due to a wrong use of terminology, considering the fact that my Studio is in Italian, it is not clear to me the equivalence of terms. I'll try to summarise my issue:

The only preview I can reproduce now in my Studio 2017 is an external visualization of my target file in its native format (MS Word) through the icon in the quick access tool bar or by the command ALT +Shift +P or through File > Print & View > View In > MS Word/Excel/PowerPoint as Target.

-This is called a "standard preview" and in my Italian version only "Anteprima"(Preview).  Is this  what you have called in a previous answer "Micorsoft Word: this just opens the file in Microsoft Word and highlights the source you are in"?
It isn't a realtime preview and I cannot update it in any way during my translation unless opening again and again the target file if I want to see how the job is going on.

What I would need is the preview to be displayed within Editor and refreshing itself during the translation in the preview window beside the translated segment.  Is this the real-time preview? and is it an embedded-type preview (as you told  me: "this uses MS Word in the preview itself.  So a perfect rendition of the file you are translating")?

In Italian this preview to be opened in Editor is called "Anteprima iniziale" (Initial).  I have understood from several parts that I cannot have it because of the version of Office installed on my pc (click-to-run instead of MSI installer). To this purpose, you wrote to me that in this case I should still be able to see a HTML rendition, but I cannot see even that anywhere. 

I even cannot see where I could ask for this type of preview. The only choice I have, scrolling the menu in the preview window is between "Preview" (I suppose the standard one) and real-time preview that I cannot display. Is there any other way to ask for html rendition?  

Thank you very much and sorry for this mess.

Hi, I am really sorry to come back with this issue, but unforntunately this is still a real problem to me. My misunderstanding is probably due to a wrong use of terminology, considering the fact that my Studio is in Italian, it is not clear to me the equivalence of terms. I'll try to summarise my issue:

The only preview I can reproduce now in my Studio 2017 is an external visualization of my target file in its native format (MS Word) through the icon in the quick access tool bar or by the command ALT +Shift +P or through File > Print & View > View In > MS Word/Excel/PowerPoint as Target.

-This is called a "standard preview" and in my Italian version only "Anteprima"(Preview).  Is this  what you have called in a previous answer "Micorsoft Word: this just opens the file in Microsoft Word and highlights the source you are in"?
It isn't a realtime preview and I cannot update it in any way during my translation unless opening again and again the target file if I want to see how the job is going on.

What I would need is the preview to be displayed within Editor and refreshing itself during the translation in the preview window beside the translated segment.  Is this the real-time preview? and is it an embedded-type preview (as you told  me: "this uses MS Word in the preview itself.  So a perfect rendition of the file you are translating")?

In Italian this preview to be opened in Editor is called "Anteprima iniziale" (Initial).  I have understood from several parts that I cannot have it because of the version of Office installed on my pc (click-to-run instead of MSI installer). To this purpose, you wrote to me that in this case I should still be able to see a HTML rendition, but I cannot see even that anywhere. 

I even cannot see where I could ask for this type of preview. The only choice I have, scrolling the menu in the preview window is between "Preview" (I suppose the standard one) and real-time preview that I cannot display. Is there any other way to ask for html rendition?  

Thank you very much and sorry for this mess.