Where is my work? Autosave not worked. 2017

I just reopened my Stu

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  • Hi ,

    Looks like you're having a problem with saving your posts too ;-)

    Seriously, I guess you have opened Studio after a crash perhaps, and do not see your translation work anywhere. You should see your autosaved files in the same folder as your projects:

    docs.sdl.com/.../pub.xql

    If you don't see them there, and if you can't find the sdlxliff files (the bilingual files containing your translation) in the location you think you saved them, then you should open the new project with the source files and pretranslate them from your Translation Memories. This won't recover anyting you have not confirmed to your TM yet but hopefully will get you most of the way back to where you were.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Haha, yes! Don't know what happened there!

    To be honest, I no longer remember the circumstances surrounding the computer "shutdown", as I currently have a laptop charge problem, and it may be that the plug slipped out of the back and itself off suddenly, or I may have not saved it properly.

    Unfortunately, I'm new to 2017, and my instinctive regular saving using Ctrl+Shift+Enter that I used with 2011 no longer works, so I probably put down my laptop lid without saving. By the way, am I missing something or does the "Save All" feature really no longer exist?

    Sod's Law: for once in 5 years of using Studio, I haven't created a TM, so no chance of repopulating my segments that way. Bummer. I guess I'll just have to retranslate everything.

    However, I DID think that the purpose of Autosave (or one of) was to avoid having to actively remember to save one's work all the time, so I am still surprised that, as Jerzy says, Autosave is only intended for Studio crashes and, as I read elsewhere, Autosave files are only kept in such events as a crash. That might explain why I don't have any. But it would be nice if Autosave could do that for us!

    Thanks anyway. I know better now.
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  • Haha, yes! Don't know what happened there!

    To be honest, I no longer remember the circumstances surrounding the computer "shutdown", as I currently have a laptop charge problem, and it may be that the plug slipped out of the back and itself off suddenly, or I may have not saved it properly.

    Unfortunately, I'm new to 2017, and my instinctive regular saving using Ctrl+Shift+Enter that I used with 2011 no longer works, so I probably put down my laptop lid without saving. By the way, am I missing something or does the "Save All" feature really no longer exist?

    Sod's Law: for once in 5 years of using Studio, I haven't created a TM, so no chance of repopulating my segments that way. Bummer. I guess I'll just have to retranslate everything.

    However, I DID think that the purpose of Autosave (or one of) was to avoid having to actively remember to save one's work all the time, so I am still surprised that, as Jerzy says, Autosave is only intended for Studio crashes and, as I read elsewhere, Autosave files are only kept in such events as a crash. That might explain why I don't have any. But it would be nice if Autosave could do that for us!

    Thanks anyway. I know better now.
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  • However, I DID think that the purpose of Autosave (or one of) was to avoid having to actively remember to save one's work all the time, so I am still surprised that, as Jerzy says, Autosave is only intended for Studio crashes and, as I read elsewhere, Autosave files are only kept in such events as a crash. That might explain why I don't have any. But it would be nice if Autosave could do that for us!

    Please do not feel offended, but after over 27 years in business I wonder, that someone can think Autosave would be there to replace the "normal" save procedure. I do not know ANY other software, which would keep the autosaved file, when you close the software and say NO to the prompt for saving.

    This said, you problem seems to be a different one. In your case Studio did indeed crash, as the whole computer crashed. Your bad luck will however be, that the crash was of a different kind - power off means, no storing, saving of whatever and all operations started when the power went off are broken or with no results. Is like you would start filling a pot with water when water supply would stop - your pot would remain empty regardless any settings...

    When working with Studio, you always should have a TM  - otherwise working with any CAT tool does not make the slightest sense. Without a TM any CAT tool is more or less useless. And I'm afraid if you did not have any TM, then there will be no real chance to recover anything.

    As for the CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER - AFAIR this shortcut was never used for saving anything. I cannot remember now what it was. In my Studio (2017) it does just nothing. There has also not been any shortcut for "Save all" AFAIR. The plain "CTRL+S" is however still used, so pressing CTRL+S from time to time is a good habit.

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  • I do apologise for my ignorance. I have barely been in business for 5 years, as opposed to your 27 long years, over which you have certainly acquired some very substantial knowledge :-) Btw, I received no prompt. As I said, I don't remember the exact circumstances.

    Actually, although I now appreciate that a TM can get you out of certain tricky situations, working with a CAT tool without a TM isn't totally senseless. I do use the Language Cloud services, and it just so happens that I KNOW I will never re-use a TM for this particular client.

    Now, I actually meant CTRL+CHIFT+S, not ENTER, but yes, I checked in 2011 and it IS a shortcut for "Save All". Indeed, it does nothing in 2017, which may explain why I hadn't properly saved my work (I've been instinctively saving "all" and saving "nothing at all" in the process).

    Thank you for your help.
  • Oh, indeed, there still IS "Save all" in Studio:

     

    This is a list of shortcuts I just opened in Studio 2017. So there is Save all and it should work as expected with CTRL+SHIFT+S.

    Why it didn't will certainly remain an unsolved riddle.

    As for the rest: the forum is not a good platform to discuss advantages and disadvantages of using of a TM or not using it, so I will not argue anymore on that.

    To avoid problems with power shortage I use several UPS here, one for my PC (desktop), one for the NAS devices in my office and another one for two more NAS backup devices in the cellar. These will however not secure any laptop with dead battery against unplugging the power cord. Here only a new battery may be helpful.

    I hope you did not lose too much work and can recover fast.

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  • Unknown said:
    the forum is not a good platform to discuss advantages and disadvantages of using of a TM or not using it

    Hi Jerzy, I beg to differ with you on that one!  I think it's a great place to discuss this sort of thing.  I'd be very interested to learn when it's better to work without one because I don't see it either.  Even if you don't want the contents you won't get any tokenization if you don't use a TM and that means no sensible autopropagation, number recognision, dates, variables etc.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Dear Paul
    I just meant this would be much too longish for here, I'm afraid.
    But I share your point of view - not using a TM is refusing to utilize ANY information which might come even from the just translated document. When translating I often get auto suggest hits from segments, I confirmed few minutes ago. And left alone kind of repaired matches I am getting for German into Polish. However, astonishingly enough, there are nearly no usable repaired matches the other way round. So looks like the engine is not working equally good for western European (into Slavic) and for Slavic (into western) languages.
    Best regards, Jerzy

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  • Paul, I'm not suggesting it's better to work without one, but due to the very nature and relatively short length of this project, I felt it would have been highly unlikely to be of much use. However, didn't think of Autosuggest. I didn't appear to get that with 2011, but I am getting prompts automatically with 2017. So yes, I suppose that is useful.
  • Hi , no worries, I was more interested than anything else. AutoSuggest is interesting but the tokenization could be of significant value depending on the content of your text.

    I think it just makes sense to have a default TM ready to go for everything and then you also don't have to worry if the worst happens.

    Regards

    Paul

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