Updating project languages when updating a template in Studio

Hi all,

Is there a way to update the language combination of a project template (both for Studio 2014 and 2017) after you have created the project with your preferred languages?

I created a project template EN-FR but when I create new projects using that template, it includes several targets that I never added. I modify the languages to create a new project and update the template at the end, but whenever I use the template for a new project it includes again all the other target languages...

Any ideas, please?

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Updating project languages when updating a template in Studio Hi all, Is there a way to update the language combination of a project template (both for Studio 2014 and 2017) after you have created the project with your preferred languages? I created a project template EN-FR but when I create new projects using that template, it includes several targets that I never added. I modify the languages to create a new project and update the template at the end, but whenever I use the template for a new project it includes again all the other target languages... Any ideas, please? Thanks,
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0 Lydia Simplicio over 7 years ago

Hi Elisa,

I believe the following articles should help you.

EDITING A PROJECT TEMPLATE
producthelp.sdl.com/.../P_Edit_a_Project_Template.htm

Or maybe simply creating a new project template will do the trick

CREATING A NEW PROJECT TEMPLATE
producthelp.sdl.com/.../P_Create_a_Project_Template.htm

Kr

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0 Elisa Wenceslá over 7 years ago in reply to Lydia Simplicio

Hi again, Steven.

It seems like editing the template does not work either, as after you have created the new project with your preferred languages (modified again in the template), the next time you use it to create a new project it adds new languages again and again... That's a bit annoying... :-(

I don't quite understand the logic behind that behavior of adding new languages all the time.

Thanks anyway!
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0 Paul over 7 years ago in reply to Elisa Wenceslá

Hi Elisa Wenceslá ,

Is this happening in your default template or your custom templates?

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0 Elisa Wenceslá over 7 years ago in reply to Paul

Hi Paul,

This happens in a custom template that I created and then set as the default one to use.

I created it with a particular language combination and then some target languages were added. I edited the template again under Setup to leave only the preferred source and target to create a new project. When I used the template after that project, it had already added some target languages. I created a new project with the preferred languages again and updated the template at the end of the project creation to keep those changes. However, when I use it for a new project after that, I see that some target languages were added again (and not the same as the previously added languages). When I open the template, I see those languages added in the "Language Pairs" category, where I had modified them at the beginning.

My guess is that those languages are being added whenever I open any files or projects with different languages. However, I don't understand the logic to add some languages over others...

Please let me know in case you need further information.

Thanks and kind regards,
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0 Elisa Wenceslá over 7 years ago in reply to Paul

Hi Paul,

This happens in a custom template that I created and then set as the default one to use.

I created it with a particular language combination and then some target languages were added. I edited the template again under Setup to leave only the preferred source and target to create a new project. When I used the template after that project, it had already added some target languages. I created a new project with the preferred languages again and updated the template at the end of the project creation to keep those changes. However, when I use it for a new project after that, I see that some target languages were added again (and not the same as the previously added languages). When I open the template, I see those languages added in the "Language Pairs" category, where I had modified them at the beginning.

My guess is that those languages are being added whenever I open any files or projects with different languages. However, I don't understand the logic to add some languages over others...

Please let me know in case you need further information.

Thanks and kind regards,
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0 Paul over 7 years ago in reply to Elisa Wenceslá

Hi Elisa Wenceslá ,

The way Studio works (logically or illogically) is that the default template does get updated with things you do afterwards. I find that using the single document process a lot to test things means my default template has huge numbers of language pairs so I clean it every now and again. But for things I want to stay as they are I create specific templates that do not become the default.

I tend to agree with you that I don't like the way this works and wish you had to deliberately change things even in the default template, but I think the way it works now is a deliberate behaviour. If it is deliberate then maybe an option to allow this to get updated automatically or not would be a good idea.

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0 Elisa Wenceslá over 7 years ago in reply to Paul

Thanks Paul,

Unknown said:
The way Studio works (logically or illogically) is that the default template does get updated with things you do afterwards.

I'm not sure about that. As far as I know, any template can be manually edited with any changes you want to apply (via Setup > Edit) or gets automatically updated only after you have created a project and deliberately selected the option to update the template with the changes from that new project (settings, batch tasks, etc. but not languages, it seems). Otherwise, the changes are not applied even if you open files in Studio with different languages/settings (or at least I haven't noticed that in other settings apart from the languages, which seem to behave in a totally different way).

Could you please explain what you meant above? I may be wrong but I never found that my template was automatically updated by itself.

Unknown said:
If it is deliberate then maybe an option to allow this to get updated automatically or not would be a good idea.

I definitely agree with you.

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0 Paul over 7 years ago in reply to Elisa Wenceslá

Unknown said:
Could you please explain what you meant above? I may be wrong but I never found that my template was automatically updated by itself.

Sure. Here's my default template languages:

If I now open a single file in a language I have never use before it is automatically added to this template. So I use Ctrl+Shift+O to open a file and select something unusual:

I then go and look at my default template and now I see this:

So this is how additional languages get added to the default template automatically... one way at least. Custom project templates are not affected, only the default.

Does that help?

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0 Elisa Wenceslá over 7 years ago in reply to Paul

Thanks Paul,

So we agree then: only languages are updated when opening files in the Editor view, for example (I thought you meant that any other settings would also be updated when you said "with things you do afterwards". All clear now :-)

Thanks very much as usual, really appreciated!!

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0 Paul over 7 years ago in reply to Elisa Wenceslá

Not only languages Elisa Wenceslá If you add a TM at the stage of opening a single file then the TM is also added to the template... same goes for MT providers.

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0 Elisa Wenceslá over 7 years ago in reply to Paul

Hi Paul,

Yes, I have just tested that and you are right. I will bear that in mind so that I do not use unwanted TMs or other settings during my project preparation.

Not a good idea to update the default template automatically, from my point of view... :-/

Thanks for pointing it out!!
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