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Unsuccessful application of font adaptation

Keenan Cooper

Hello,

I'm giving font adaptation another swing but once again having no luck with finding the right combination to get the desired results. For now, what I just want is for Studio to display a target language in the font of my choice. Eventually, I'd like that font to also be used in the generated target file, but I've been told only the default font settings in the native file will determine the font output. But one thing at a time.

I have a test xlsx file written with text in MS P Gothic in Japanese to be translated into American English. Actually, I have a bunch of screenshots explaining my process so please see the powerpoint. And please try yourself using the attached excel file. 

Thank you in advance.

6406.Fontmapping.pptx

4353.MS Gothic as default test.xlsx
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    Hi ,

    I have not tested the file but looking at your powerpoint I'd say your problem is you are only changing the font to be used in the final target document. If you want to change the font used on the screen then use the Font Adaptation settings in File -> Options -> Editor. Font Adaptation and Font Mapping are two different things.

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  • 0 in reply to Paul

    Okay I miswrote font "adaptation" when I meant to write "mapping". I'm trying to figure out how those two are different, to be honest. Nothing I do with mapping seems to make any difference. I'm generally curious about what some "before" and "after" images look like.
    As for adaptation, I've tried that one many times before too because it was the most obvious and straightforward looking. But I've never been able to get it to work either.
    For one, the settings never stick. They always go back to "Afar" and "default". So here are my changed settings before starting a project:

    Then I start a new project, run a batch task, get this:

    Unchanged, and definitely not Arial. When I go to file to see what happened to the settings, they're back to default.

     

    Thoughts?
  • 0 in reply to Keenan Cooper
    The settings say that if document specific formatting is used, it will override the font you are trying to set... i.e. I suppose it's exactly this case, because you explicitly formatted the source text as MS Gothic.
    As to the "returning to default" - I suppose it's just the list of "language-font" pairs getting to default state (listed alphabetically, starting with Afar), but if you scroll to US English, the configured font will be there. IMO the used GUI controls are quite unfortunate for this kind of settings and e.g. a listbox clearly showing the "language-font" pairs side-by-side would be better choice (if for nothing else, then at least to show the user that there are multiple pairs which can be configured).
  • 0 in reply to Evzen Polenka

    Evzen,

    Unknown said:
    The settings say that if document specific formatting is used, it will override the font you are trying to set... i.e. I suppose it's exactly this case, because you explicitly formatted the source text as MS Gothic.

    But this will always be the case then. The font set for adaptation of the target will always be overwritten by the source font? What's the point of this setting then? In what scenario does the font adaption setting actually stick? As for "explicitly formatting the source to MS Gothic"... it was just the default setting which Microsoft sets as its default display font for Japanese. Excel has one default font (not like PPT that has a font theme setting for two languages). So essentially it's impossible to display a target in a different font in Trados or produce an English file through Trados with Arial font (or anything else) as long as the default language of the source file is MS Gothic (which it always is)?

    Under what scenario do font mapping and font adaptation actually work? I've taken the Studio training up to Advanced and still no clear examples of successful application of these settings. 

    Thank you.
  • 0 in reply to Keenan Cooper

    Unknown said:
    The font set for adaptation of the target will always be overwritten by the source font? What's the point of this setting then?

    If the source format can and DOES specify the font explicitly, then this font will be used in Editor. This is not only very logical behavior, but also "forced by technical nature of the files parsing and processing", so to say.

    Formats NOT specifying font (e.g. by their nature, like plain text or XML) will make use of this setting.

    Unknown said:
    In what scenario does the font adaption setting actually stick?

    I still believe that the setting actually DOES stick, i.e. that it is remembered by Studio (that is the usual meaning of the term "stick" in this context). But due to the technical nature of the source format it just cannot be applied (because it's overriden by the Excel's font setting).
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  • 0 in reply to Keenan Cooper

    Unknown said:
    The font set for adaptation of the target will always be overwritten by the source font? What's the point of this setting then?

    If the source format can and DOES specify the font explicitly, then this font will be used in Editor. This is not only very logical behavior, but also "forced by technical nature of the files parsing and processing", so to say.

    Formats NOT specifying font (e.g. by their nature, like plain text or XML) will make use of this setting.

    Unknown said:
    In what scenario does the font adaption setting actually stick?

    I still believe that the setting actually DOES stick, i.e. that it is remembered by Studio (that is the usual meaning of the term "stick" in this context). But due to the technical nature of the source format it just cannot be applied (because it's overriden by the Excel's font setting).
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