Hi Barbara Pattison 

That sounds strange, would you be able to post a screenshot of what you see? The default behavior is as below.

In Word:

In Studio:

So, as you can see, with the default segmentation rules you should have the desired behavior.

By the way, segmentation rules are stored in each TM. One place you can find them is by going to Project Settings - All Language Pairs - Translation Memory and Automated Translation - (Select the appropriate TM here), then select Settings - Language Resources - Segmentation Rules. 

Hello Norah,

Thanks for your reply.

I've attached a screen capture. As you can see, I would like Studio to NOT break in between the full stop and the closing quotation mark.

I would like to break to occur right AFTER the closing quotation mark so both the period and the quotation mark are the same segment... as they should.

I hope the attached capture makes my problem clearer to you.

Any suggestion?

Hi Barbara Pattison 

The problem seems to be caused by having a space before the quotes, I can repro like this:

If you create an exception to the full stop rule in your segmentation rules like this:

Then you should achieve this:

So go to your TM settings, then Language Resources -> Segmentation Rules -> Add Exception

See if that helps you?

And just in case your sentences are written like this with no paragraph break after the quoted text:

Space after quotation marks. « Contusion main gauche avec fracture 3 doight gauche, écrasement main gauche avec atteinte nerf cubital. » No space after quotation marks. «Contusion main gauche avec fracture 3 doight gauche, écrasement main gauche avec atteinte nerf cubital.»

Just create a completely new rule to break after a » in addition to the exception to the fullstop rule:

It's tricky to guess what you actually have to deal with without seeing more of the actual text.

Paul, I have another similar problem/question.

Say, in my L1 Word document, I have a numbered list like the following one:

1. Fractures ouvertes

2. Fractures en bois vert

3. Fractures avec déplacement

etc.

Studio does the break right after the period following the number in the L1 segments,

but doesn't in the L2 segments. It looks like this:

L1 segments:                                                               L2 segments:

1.                                                                                  1. Open fractures

Fractures ouvertes                                                          2. Greenstick fractures

2.                                                                                  3. Displaced fractures

Fractures en bois vert

3.

Fractures avec déplacement

etc.

I'm aware some people are happy with that default segmentation, but I would prefer Studio to do the breaks

so the L1 segments look just like they do in my Word doc.

Do I have to create a rule or an exception to the rule?

Also what expression do I need so as to get Studio to NOT do a segment break after the period following the number

in a numbered list?

Hi Barbara Pattison 

This has less to do with default segmentation and more to do with poorly prepared source files.  If these were really numbered lists in Word (and not just text) then you would not see the numbers at all as Studio would take care of them externally.

Can you confirm exactly what you would like here because I'm not clear.  You want your segments to look like this in Studio with the numbers included in the segment?

1. Fractures ouvertes

2. Fractures en bois vert

3. Fractures avec déplacement

Can you provide a small sample file just of the text you provided so we can see what kind of white space has been used to create this source?

Paul, I'm sorry, I just can't find that exact file, but you've opened my eyes on a different topic, i.e. poorly prepared source files.

Now that I think about it, I do remember that it wasn't a "proper" numbered list. That's very likely what my problem was. Thank you for your help.

My original question here dealth with an exception to the full stop segmentation with respect to closing quotation marks in French.

I have encountered a similar problem, but this time with the question mark:

By default Studio does the segmentation break AFTER the question mark and BEFORE the closing quotation marks.

It looks like this:

1 « Pourquoi est-il parti?

2 »

What do I have to do for the segmentation to look like this:

1 « Pourquoi est-il parti? »

2

Do I have to create a new rule or an exception... to which rule exactly?

What would be the expression?

Thanks for all your help. It's not exactly an easy piece of software, but I will not give up.