TMs and TBs in Studio 2021 - TMs shutdown randomly and old TBs simply do not work

I am having a lot of trouble with both TMs and TBs in Studio 2021. For TMs (which I have already updated, in line with the release notes), they simply close from time to time while translating, as if no TM had been added to the project. For TBs, Studio simply does not search for/ recognise the terms, in spite of the TBs having been added to the project and in sipite of the TBs having also been updated, as per the release notes. It only recognises new entries made while using Studio 2021. Any ideas? Needless to say, TMs and TBs are crucial for my work, and I would expect their integration with Studio 2021 not to cause this type of problems!

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  • Hi Margarida,

    It may seem crazy but I posted the suggestion on the SDL Trados Ideas page that the 'new' features in Studio be turned OFF by default so that people can just turn on the features they wish to use. That seems logical to me. We can't all afford to buy a new computer or more RAM when installing a heavy-duty piece of software so if the program was less heavy-duty by default, users who don't understand how to streamline the program's functionality wouldn't have so many problems.

    Here's something else you can turn off by unticking it under File>Options, that may help stabilise things:
    Trados Studio Options menu with Translation Memory and Automated Translation section open, showing various settings that can be enabled or disabled to streamline software performance.

    I verify at the end of the job, I don't want to be interrupted by false positives each time I confirm a segment, i.e. things that the software flags up that I know are OK.

    There are other features that can be turned off to streamline the product, too. It all depends on what you need the software to do. A project manager, for example, wouldn't need the same tools 'switched on' as a translator, or a proofreader (which is most of my work, in Review mode). I'm not being divisive, just trying to be logical. I work full-time using Studio and MultiTerm and I love them! 

    All the best,

    Ali Wink

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  • Thank you Alison! I also turn off several features myself because I simply don't want to be bothered by things that are useless to me, but this a different issue - there's no reason one should be forced to turn-off features so that things as basic as TBs and TMs function properly while translating.

  • Oh, they do. With more or less all bells & whistles turned on here.

    I have my main TMs and all TBs stored on a M2 SSD, while all projects including project TMs are on a NAS. And even though my data is being accessed via network, I can work on projects with 50,000+ words and TMs with far over 300,000 TUs. My biggest TM has over 1,5 million TUs and is still usable, however the performance with smaller TMs is better.

    To make sure, your Studio is working properly, you should use a completely new user profile, create all templates from scratch, upgrade and reorganize your TMs and so on. Should your PC have performance problems, you can tune up the TMs from accuracy to speed:

    Trados Studio Translation Memory Settings window showing options for Fuzzy Index Statistics, Fuzzy Index, and Advanced Tuning with a slider between Accuracy and Speed.

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  • Thank you very much for all your assistance! For all that is worth, due to the nature of my work, I do not need any of that - all my TBs and TMs are mine and local, there is no network at all, I do not work on the cloud, I do not use automated translation servers or interfaces with external databases and most of the files I translate are plain text files. Therefore, I do not need a super machine for what I do; your case is a very different one. Therefore, if Strudio 2021 cannot work properly in such a low-requirement environment as mine, in spite of my pc meeting (and exceeding!) the specs, I think there's a problem. BTW, it is not that the TMs are slow, I simply cannot update them. As for the TBs, they shutdown every time I close the file I am translating; I have to "open" them again, in spite of Studio showing that they are unable. It looks to me that there is a problem with the interfaces of both TBs and TMs. Thanks anyway!

  • Hi Margarida,

    Sorry, I must clarify... nobody at SDL would force you to turn anything off. It's my suggestion entirely because it works for me. Particularly because most of my work is proofreading translations in Studio, I don't need LookAhead or Fragment Matching. I have other things turned off too, such as Tracked Changes. I have added stuff too, plug-ins that are useful to me. Customisation of the software makes my job easier and more efficient.

    Anyway, I'm really sorry that I haven't been able to solve your problem. If you contact the Chat Desk as I suggested, somebody @SDL will be able to set up a case for you to investigate this and find a solution for you. 

    All the best,

    Ali Kissing heart

  • Well, there is no such problem—or at least I have not seen it with anybody else than you. Due to the nature of software and hardware PCs from even the same brand may differ. It can be the antivirus, it can be a software for speech recognition or particularly anything else. It can also be a configuration problem within the projects,

    Have you installed Studio by right-clicking the installer and chosing to run as admin? In many—if not in most—cases Studio behaves better then.

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  • Just to update you, I've exported all the TBs and TMs from within the 2021 Studio and Multiterm versions, and then created new TBs and TMs, to which I imported the old ones. After that, I created a new project template and tried to translate a file using it. The end result is that the TMs are working and could be updated, whereas TBs still have to be "activated" each time I open the file for translation, by going to Project Settings/Termbases and clicking OK (in spite of the TBs being all already enabled). If this is the only bug, I think I can live with it. This may also be useful for people who are experiencing trouble with updating their TMs and getting the exception error. I thank you and Alison for having tried to help me and I wish you a Happy New Year!

  • Hi Margarida,

    I'm glad you have everything working OK with your TMs. You've done all the right things to resolve your issues.

    After all you have done, the TB problem should not exist any more. I do experience the same symptom sometimes when I open client packages. However, I remove the termbases then add them again and that stops the problem. 

    Quite coincidentally, yesterday I had the problem that you had where terms weren't appearing in the Term Recognition window. I ran a Windows repair on the MultiTerm components and Studio via Control Panel > Progams... > Repair and that fixed the issue. Maybe after all the work you have done, a Windows Repair might help now?

    This final issue really shouldn't be happening... would you be able to resolve the issue where a locally-made and stored termbase fails to stay associated with the project after reboot?

    All the best,

    Ali Slight smile

  • Thanks Ali! I agree that it should not happen, but it does :-) Right now, I'd rather not touch it anymore and wait and see what happens in future projects. All the best and Happy New Year!