Péter Orosz 

I think you need to look at what retrofit is intended to do.  If the reviewed target file is just lightly edited with textual corrections and not new sentences or paragraphs which will change the structure of the file then you'll probably never have a problem.  But if you use it to make wider ranging changes then you are now relying on a computer to figure out how these additions to the structure should be aligned.  If the computer could do this perfectly we would probably be at a stage where the use of humans for many things that require their input will have changed considerably.

With that in mind perhaps you can provide some real examples of where you have identified a problem with using these settings to achieve what you needed?

Dear Paul

I’m aware Retrofit is not meant to import significant structural changes.

Suppose I translate >to< English and I SHOULD write:

„The following statement was issued today by the Spokesman for UN Secretary-General...”

...but I write:

„The following statement was was issued today by Spongebob, the UN Secretary-General...”

The reviewer finds these errors of mine, uses track changes in Word, then I run the Retrofit batch task.

I take a masochistic delight in failing to provide high-quality translations, so I set the slider to „Strict” (I mean: the strictest possible).

Does it mean some of the reviewer’s work may not be imported?

If the slider is in the middle, is it possible that „...the Spokesman for UN Secretary-General...” is imported but „was” is not?

No real examples, I’d just like to understand:

- why the default is closer to „Strict”,

- why one would ever want anything else but fully „Tolerant”,

- why we have that slider at all,

- why Plankton always fails to steal the secret recipe for the Krabby Patty.

You are very experienced, are you, do you ever set it to „Strict”?

Brgds

Péter

Péter Orosz 

Péter Orosz said:

You are very experienced, are you, do you ever set it to „Strict”?

I've been around a while... but I'm not a translator so I only set this to test and see how I could improve the results.  Just wanted to set that straight first.

Péter Orosz said:

I take a masochistic delight in failing to provide high-quality translations, so I set the slider to „Strict” (I mean: the strictest possible).

Does it mean some of the reviewer’s work may not be imported?

If these were the only changes you made then I doubt moving the slider will make any difference at all.  It could do, but probably not.

Péter Orosz said:

- why the default is closer to „Strict”,

- why one would ever want anything else but fully „Tolerant”,

- why we have that slider at all,

Probably easier to answer in one.  This feature determines how closely the alignment engine sticks to the document structure.  So if content is in tables, or lists for example.  If it's strict it's going to want to ensure that the alignment sticks to this structure as accurately as possible.  If it's tolerant then it may do a better job if the reviewer strayed a little from the structure of the original file.

It's not really scientific so that there's one answer for each scenario.  There are many things at play with alignment, including segmentation rules.  So these settings are there to try and help you get a better alignment when you shoehorn the revised document back into your translation.  The default is set to 70%... matches the defaults elsewhere as this generally seems to be best for most jobs in testing.  It's also why a backup file is created!

Péter Orosz said:

- why Plankton always fails to steal the secret recipe for the Krabby Patty.

If that helps you to make a better patty then I'm sure we're all ears!

Péter Orosz 

Péter Orosz said:

You are very experienced, are you, do you ever set it to „Strict”?

I've been around a while... but I'm not a translator so I only set this to test and see how I could improve the results.  Just wanted to set that straight first.

Péter Orosz said:

I take a masochistic delight in failing to provide high-quality translations, so I set the slider to „Strict” (I mean: the strictest possible).

Does it mean some of the reviewer’s work may not be imported?

If these were the only changes you made then I doubt moving the slider will make any difference at all.  It could do, but probably not.

Péter Orosz said:

- why the default is closer to „Strict”,

- why one would ever want anything else but fully „Tolerant”,

- why we have that slider at all,

Probably easier to answer in one.  This feature determines how closely the alignment engine sticks to the document structure.  So if content is in tables, or lists for example.  If it's strict it's going to want to ensure that the alignment sticks to this structure as accurately as possible.  If it's tolerant then it may do a better job if the reviewer strayed a little from the structure of the original file.

It's not really scientific so that there's one answer for each scenario.  There are many things at play with alignment, including segmentation rules.  So these settings are there to try and help you get a better alignment when you shoehorn the revised document back into your translation.  The default is set to 70%... matches the defaults elsewhere as this generally seems to be best for most jobs in testing.  It's also why a backup file is created!

Péter Orosz said:

- why Plankton always fails to steal the secret recipe for the Krabby Patty.

If that helps you to make a better patty then I'm sure we're all ears!