I can't figure out the use of the list of source files. The only actions available for them are the batch tasks, and in many cases the results of these are the same as when I perform them on the target files.

And a question about the search function: It seems to be intended for finding projects with the search word contained in the project name. Is that correct?

Another minor matter: It is impossible to shrink the size of the rightmost column. So if I shrink all the others, I am left with a very broad last column, which also means that if I shrink the size of the Trados window, that last column will be cut off. No big matter but slightly irritating.

Finally: The information icon for Give feedback does not work.

Otherwise, a nice touch-up (particularly the statistics views) even if I must admit that I so far haven't found much use for it.

Mats Linder 

Mats Linder said:

I can't figure out the use of the list of source files.

You now have one view for projects AND files.  Previously you had two views, one for projects and one for files.  You can open the files from here, you can see all the files for each target language (useful in a multilingual project) and you can also see the source language files (useful if you want to check the source files themselves).  Maybe more reasons too... this was just off the top of my head.

Mats Linder said:

in many cases the results of these are the same as when I perform them on the target files.

Thank goodness for that!  If you'd said the results were different then we would have a problem!

Mats Linder said:

And a question about the search function: It seems to be intended for finding projects with the search word contained in the project name. Is that correct?

Correct.

Mats Linder said:

Another minor matter: It is impossible to shrink the size of the rightmost column. So if I shrink all the others, I am left with a very broad last column, which also means that if I shrink the size of the Trados window, that last column will be cut off. No big matter but slightly irritating.

Yes... I think this came up in the meetings we have been having.  Quite a lot of relevant feedback around the way these views are handled so expect to see many more improvements as go through the Beta programme for this.

Mats Linder said:

Finally: The information icon for Give feedback does not work.

What happens and which icon are you referring to?

Mats Linder said:

Otherwise, a nice touch-up (particularly the statistics views) even if I must admit that I so far haven't found much use for it.

Thanks Mats... I'm really surprised the three or four users who were vehemently complaining about statistics in the current production version have not contributed to this exercise at all.  It's the perfect opportunity to make clear why there needs to be a change and influence the direction of the software.  I guess complaining in the forums instead has some other value for some :-)

Mats Linder 

Mats Linder said:

I can't figure out the use of the list of source files.

You now have one view for projects AND files.  Previously you had two views, one for projects and one for files.  You can open the files from here, you can see all the files for each target language (useful in a multilingual project) and you can also see the source language files (useful if you want to check the source files themselves).  Maybe more reasons too... this was just off the top of my head.

Mats Linder said:

in many cases the results of these are the same as when I perform them on the target files.

Thank goodness for that!  If you'd said the results were different then we would have a problem!

Mats Linder said:

And a question about the search function: It seems to be intended for finding projects with the search word contained in the project name. Is that correct?

Correct.

Mats Linder said:

Another minor matter: It is impossible to shrink the size of the rightmost column. So if I shrink all the others, I am left with a very broad last column, which also means that if I shrink the size of the Trados window, that last column will be cut off. No big matter but slightly irritating.

Yes... I think this came up in the meetings we have been having.  Quite a lot of relevant feedback around the way these views are handled so expect to see many more improvements as go through the Beta programme for this.

Mats Linder said:

Finally: The information icon for Give feedback does not work.

What happens and which icon are you referring to?

Mats Linder said:

Otherwise, a nice touch-up (particularly the statistics views) even if I must admit that I so far haven't found much use for it.

Thanks Mats... I'm really surprised the three or four users who were vehemently complaining about statistics in the current production version have not contributed to this exercise at all.  It's the perfect opportunity to make clear why there needs to be a change and influence the direction of the software.  I guess complaining in the forums instead has some other value for some :-)

Hi Paul  and Mats Linder 

I also noticed that when you adjust the column size, it does this only for the first target language, but the columns of the next target language below stay the same, which looks quite odd:

Thanks for these swift and informative replies! The information icon I mean is the "i" immediately to the right of the words "Give feedback". Normally, such an icon will provide extra information when clicked. This one does nothing at all, which means it could as well be removed.

Did you read my reply about this with the screenshot?
The icon shows a tooltip when you hover over it.

Walter Blaser said:

I also noticed that when you adjust the column size, it does this only for the first target language, but the columns of the next target language below stay the sam

Thanks Walter Blaser ... noted.

Bogdan Tanasie fyi.

Yes, I see that now. Seems I wasn't patient enough but immediately clicked on the icon and because of that never saw the tooltip.

Yes, I see that now. Seems I wasn't patient enough but immediately clicked on the icon and because of that never saw the tooltip.

An additional question concerning the source files list: You say "You can open the files from here" -- but I cannot open the source files, which would actually be very helpful if I could. And another thing which I never thought about before: For some projects, I can also see the .sdlxliff files for both source and target languages. (Why I can do that for some project and not for others I don't understand.) They are of exactly the same size, so I assume they are identical. However, when I look at the same project in the file manager, I can also see some other .sdlxliff files, where the sizes are different for source and target languages. All this leads to several questions:

1. Why do I see .sdlxliff files in this view for some projects but not for others?

2. Why do I only see some of those files and not all? Example (the first image is from the Manager view -- the Files view gives the same result --, the second from the file manager):

As you can see, one of the source files is presented in Studio in *only* the .doc format, whereas evidently it exists also in .sdlxliff format. Strange.

3. (And this is something I should know but can't understand why I never tried to figure) What is the difference between the source and target .sdlxliff files in those cases when they are obviously different? It seems the answer is that the target .sdlxliff contains whatever translations I have made, whereas the source one contains only the source segments. It makes sense, but then what purpose does the source .sdlxliff serve?

4. About the columns: Any changes I make to them -- width or order -- is not propagated to the source files part, which is a pity.

I can't believe I've spent so much time on these really rather unimportant questions...

Mats Linder 

First of all I'd like to reinforce that the reason this is a Beta, and optional feature, in Studio is because it's a work in progress.  We are actively looking for feedback as you can see so please don't consider anything you find that doesn't work as you'd prefer to be a fait accomplit.  It will change with every release of Studio, improving each time, until and only if, it reaches a point where it is clearly valuable and could be a replacement for the two views you currently have for projects and files.

Mats Linder said:

1. Why do I see .sdlxliff files in this view for some projects but not for others?

It's a work in progress.  Not all project types are fully functional yet.  Maybe compare the type of project and see if this sheds some light on it for you.  Single file projects for example... not supported yet.

Mats Linder said:

2. Why do I only see some of those files and not all?

I'm not sure without seeing your actual project.  But again... most likely due to this being a work in progress.

Mats Linder said:

but then what purpose does the source .sdlxliff serve?

The simple answer is at least twofold:

1. it gets used to add more languages to your project if you find you need to add languages after creating the original project.  The batch tasks have a convert to sdlxlff and then a copy target languages.  Since we have the sdlxliff already the act of adding more languages is faster.
2. not a supported workflow... but some project managers will send out the sdlxliff from the source folder to translators for each language and rely on them to add the target.  This way they only need to send one sdlxliff file for all languages needed.  If you don't do that you either have to select the specific target language sdlxlff for each one, or create packages for each one.  It is a risky strategy though as anyone using an older version of Studio as you could cause you problems.

Mats Linder said:

4. About the columns: Any changes I make to them -- width or order -- is not propagated to the source files part

Yes... also noted by Walter.  Work in progress!

Mats Linder 

Mats Linder said:

I can't believe I've spent so much time on these really rather unimportant questions...

Not unimportant at all... all feedback is welcomed.