Arabic Diacritics

I have a problem in reviewing Arabic texts in terms of diacritics. When an Arabic word has diacritics and you want to edit the diacritics, the new diacritics are not shown. When you select a word with diacritics by keyboard (Shift + CTRL + left arrow), it does not select the entire word, but only select unti the letter which has a diacritic. When you want to remove a diacritic, it removes the letter itself along with the diacritic. For example: If I have a word like (سعيًا) and I want to remove the symbol (ً) before Alef (ا), three things happen: 1- When you select by keyboard, the selection stops before the letter (ا). 2- When you want to remove the diacritic, it removes the letter (يـ) along with its diacritic. 3- When you want to change the diacritic to another diacritic, it does not show up. All these happen only in review mode. Surely, there is a problem in the editor or may be caused by track changes. I do not know.

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    What version of Trados Studio are you using and please can you provide a small test file... preferably an sdlxliff.  Zip it and you can attach to your reply using the "Insert" menu.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • Dear Paul,

    Thanks for your quick response. Kindly find attached the test file and a screen shot - Version used is Trados 2022 version 17.0.5.147557

    You will see the modifications made to diacritics causing letters to be disconnected where unmodified letters are connected in their contexttest.txt_en-US_ar-SA.rarTrados Studio interface showing a test file with English source text and Arabic translation. Modifications to diacritics are visible, causing disconnection in letters that should be connected.

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    Dear asa sdsd,

    I created a short video to show you what I'm seeing and have a couple of questions:

    1. I have no problem selecting whole words with the Ctrl+Shift+Left Arrow.  Perhaps you can also create a video and explain wat you're doing as it happens?
    2. I have no idea how to remove diacritics from a letter.  This isn't possible in a European language, I would have to replace the entire letter.  Can you also explain how this works?  A video with the view blown up so we can clearly see the actions would be helpful.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • Dear Paul,

    As I said before, there is no problem in translation mode, the problem occurs when you use the review mode with track changes. Here is the file again and try to edit diacritics in review mode and select the entire word using keyboard in review mode.3326.test.txt_en-US_ar-SA.rar

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  • I added diacritics to the entire file, you can try in review mode

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    As I said before, there is no problem in translation mode, the problem occurs when you use the review mode with track changes.

    I was in review mode with track changes!  I tested again with your new file and this time I can reproduce the problem of selection.

    Screenshot showing Trados Studio review mode with track changes, highlighting a selection problem with underlined text in a right-to-left language.

    But you have still not explained how to deal with the removal of a diacritic without replacing the letter completely?

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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    In fact I can reproduce this in any mode!

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  • try to remove the diacritics only without removing the letter as happens in Microsoft Word, it won't. Try to edit diacritics by inserting another diacritic using shift + w, shift + q, shift + r, shift + a in Arabic keyboard mode, it will not appear

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    Can you help here?  Perhaps provide a short video of how this is supposed to work?  It's very difficult for me to reproduce this without a better explanation or preferably a short video while making the changes.  In fact showing how it works in MS Word would also help.

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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  • Please note that when you rewrite the entire word and inserting your own diacritics, there is no problem in translation or review mode, the problem occurs when you edit a single diacritic but when rewriting, there is no problem

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