Hi Pao-Lan Ladouceur ,

I don’t know what you mean with your replacements issue, but re. the Auto-propagation issue, could you please post a screen-shot with your Auto-propagation settings?

Also just out of curiosity: Any reason to not update Trados Studio and miss several updates? Why don’t you update Trados Studio and then check if you can still repro your issue?

Hello Jesús,

To be completely transparent with you, it has not really been a personal choice to not update Trados. Rather, it's because in order to do that, a request to the IT team must be made since I don't have the permissions to do it myself, which is the responsibility of my team leader, and we've been pretty busy over the last few months, so this wasn't a priority. I'm going to push for this, but it probably won't be done until next week unfortunately. I'll let you know if the problem is still there whenever we update.

In the meantime, I've attached a screen capture of my settings. Apologies, they are in French. I haven't changed anything in there between projects.

Thank you for your help and have a great day =).

Hello Jesús,

To be completely transparent with you, it has not really been a personal choice to not update Trados. Rather, it's because in order to do that, a request to the IT team must be made since I don't have the permissions to do it myself, which is the responsibility of my team leader, and we've been pretty busy over the last few months, so this wasn't a priority. I'm going to push for this, but it probably won't be done until next week unfortunately. I'll let you know if the problem is still there whenever we update.

In the meantime, I've attached a screen capture of my settings. Apologies, they are in French. I haven't changed anything in there between projects.

Thank you for your help and have a great day =).

Pao-Lan Ladouceur 

Thanks for the screen-shot. Auto-propagation should work…

After confirming a segment, do you get a prompt to confirm if you wish to auto-propagate?

Is this an old issue?

I’m thinking you may have some formatting differences that you are not showing up in the Editor and you think segments are the same, when they are not. To test this you can create a simple Word document with 2 lines, the 2nd one being the same as the 1st line. Save the document and open it in Trados Studio, no need to attach a TM, confirm the 1st segment and check if it’s auto-propagated to the 2nd one. Does it work?

I guess you know that working with non-updated versions of Trados Studio may lead to work with bugs that have been fixed in the latest build.

Hello again Jesús,

I do not get a prompt to confirm if I wish to auto-propagate, which is what made me aware there was a problem in the first place.

This isn't an old issue and only popped up with these two recent projects. Then again, I'd never had to manually change the target language sdlxliff in the local project folder before, so maybe I'm just discovering this issue now.

As you'll see in the two screenshots below, there is no formatting differences between the top segment and the other ones below, but they did not auto-propagate at all. This file comes from a PPT with a lot of repetitions and reuse of the same slides.

I understand that having an up to date software is the best and, has I mentioned, this is not a personal choice. As soon as I update, I'll see if that changes anything, but I'm still investigating in case it doesn't.

Thank you.

Pao-Lan Ladouceur 

All right, it‘s a bug in that old version of Trados Studio you are using…

or there are actually some formatting differences. I mean, if you are using the below settings you won’t be able to see ALL the formatting differences:

These formatting differences would cause the Auto-propagation to stop working, because your Minimum match value is 100%. That’s why I recommended to created an simple ad-hoc document.

Hello Jesús,

I just went to check for that parameter and it's actually on "Show all formatting and tags".

II'll keep my fingers crossed then that the updates will fix this problem.

Pao-Lan Ladouceur ,

ok, so from my point of view there is only option left: the bug.

Please let us know the result of updating your copy of Trados Studio.

Have a nice weekend!

Hello Jesús,

So I talked with my team leader about this while inquiring about the Trados update (I thought I had reported the issue to them, but maybe one of us forgot), and she told me she had had to modify the TM penalties for a big project she had been working on, adding a 5% penalty to some translations so it would stop inputting the oldest translation. I found the parameter and put it back to zero and tadah! Auto-propagation now works again. I hadn't noticed that inconsistency, or rather I thought it was part of the bug I was having.

So in the end, this wasn't an auto-propagation problem at all but a TM penalty issue. I've now shown my team leader how to modify an individual project instead of a whole File type configuration to avoid this kind of problem in the future. 

Thank you for all your help (don't worry though, we'll still update Trados).

Hi Pao-Lan Ladouceur ,

Happy the issue was solved.

Anyway I think there is a misunderstanding here. Let me explain why:

Auto-propagation kicks in even if there is the no TM, so the penalty doesn’t matter. I’ve tried the following use cases and Auto-propagation works always:

1. A simple document without a TM attached.
2. Same document with a TM (no penalty).
3. Same document, and a TM attached (penalty of 20).

Thinking of what can be going on, you may mean Pre-Translate. This feature uses indeed the penalty setting.