Upgrade to Studio 2024 Pricing is abusive

Hi,

RWS pricing policy is really abusive.

This will summarize the problem:
Upgrade from Studio 2014 FL+ to Studio 2015 FL+ : 140 CAD
Upgrade from Studio 2015 FL+ to Studio 2017 FL+ : 195 CAD
Upgrade from Studio 2017 FL+ to Studio 2019 FL+ : 264 CAD
Upgrade from Studio 2019 FL+ to Studio 2021 FL+ : 231 CAD
Upgrade from Studio 2021 FL+ to Studio 2022 FL+ : 182 CAD

And now :

Upgrade from Studio 2022 FL+ to Studio 2024 FL+ : 556 CAD !!!

Are you mad, at RWS? Do you think translators are millionaires? We can hardly increase our per word rates for years with our clients, and many of us, at this point, charge rates that are not far from what they charged 20 years ago.
In the same time, many translation agencies take advantage of neuronal translation and post-edition to try to lower many translators' rates.

Amid that, what makes you think you can triple Studio's prices, while the consumer price index is just about 1.5 x the one it was20 years ago?

Also, why such a difference between an upgrade from Studio 2022 FL to Studio 2024 FL (367 CAD) and an upgrade from Studio 2022 FL+ to Studio 2024 FL+ (556 CAD)? Almost $200 more just for the luxury of installing Studio on a spare machine, while you and I know you can only work on one machine (and instance of Studio) at a time!
Your pretext of using the cloud to transfer from your PC to your laptop is a bad faith one. Not all the translators want to use the cloud (e.g. for confidentiality concerns). And the requirement to deactivate your installation on your main computer to continue your work on your spare computer is nothing but an additional complication and stress for users. What if you travel and forgot to deactivate your main installation before leaving?

That's very disappointing from SDL/RWS I have been loyal to for 23 years.
I never missed an upgrade, I was in the very first ones to use Studio when it was released in June 2009, but, for the first time, I consider not upgrading. Mainly when I am pretty sure there will not be major enough changes in 2024 version to justify to an upgrade. I may have accepted to pay 350 CAD for an upgrade from FL+ to FL+, but not at the currently published prices.

 Sincerely,

 



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[edited by: Philippe Riondel at 4:24 PM (GMT 1) on 26 Jun 2024]
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  • Thank you Frances. I will read that paper.

    Let me ask just une question : where are Trados cloud solutions hosted, Frances? In which country? I do not know where they are, but if they are hosted in the USA or on US companies-owned cloud servers, you know no one can expect any confidentiality after the Patriot Act.

    Also, as per our service agreements with our clients, we are generally not allowed to host their data in any other place than their own servers and our own computers. Storing their data in the cloud could be seen as a violation of our agreements.

    That said, it was not the purpose of that thread. The fact is that few of us are primarily interested in using the cloud, which makes cloud features are not a reason for paying such a price for an upgrade.

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  •  where are Trados cloud solutions hosted

    Our cloud server is hosted by AWS in Germany

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  • Hosting the data in Germany is a good thing.
    Alas AWS is an American company, and, as such, is subject to the Patriot Act. That is the US government is entitled to access to the data. 

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  • Exactly, cloud services are the last thing I want. I have numerous ideas how to improve the UI, but no one is interested. They are only interested in implementing AI, but for me it is just bloatware.

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  • Alas AWS is an American company, and, as such, is subject to the Patriot Act. That is the US government is entitled to access to the data. 

    Whilst AWS may be a US company, it does not, as some have suggested, give U.S. law enforcement agencies free access to data stored in the cloud.

    https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/security/aws-and-the-cloud-act/

    Here is a more detailed explanation of how the Patriot Act works as detailed https://www.comparethecloud.net/articles/patriot-act-data-security-8-myths-busted/:

    1. The Patriot Act is a law of very limited application. The law applies only to national security (terrorism) investigations within the US. The law does not give the US government the power to act outside the US, and it does not apply at all to criminal or civil investigations outside the national security area.

    2. The Patriot Act does not grant the US government access to a cloud customer’s data. The important fact about the Patriot Act that those commenting on the law in the media do not understand is that the law is a “business records” statute. What this means is that the US government can use the law to ask any company that does business in the US (this includes US subsidiaries of non-US companies) to provide the company’s own records (things like customer name, address or means of payment), but it cannot require a hosting provider to provide access to customer data stored in a non-US data center.

    3. To access customer data stored outside the US, the US government uses established treaties. Because the Patriot Act in our view does not authorize the US government to “search” a server located outside the US, the US government must request assistance from local (in-country) law enforcement to conduct a “search”, just as other EU governments do.

    4. The Patriot Act is not being used to access customer data stored in the EU. The Dutch government has recently confirmed in answers to parliamentary questions that it is not aware of any requests under the Patriot Act for personal data stored in the EU and that the US authorities have stated that if such a request were made it would be with the assistance of in-country law enforcement.

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  • Alas AWS is an American company, and, as such, is subject to the Patriot Act. That is the US government is entitled to access to the data. 

    Whilst AWS may be a US company, it does not, as some have suggested, give U.S. law enforcement agencies free access to data stored in the cloud.

    https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/security/aws-and-the-cloud-act/

    Here is a more detailed explanation of how the Patriot Act works as detailed https://www.comparethecloud.net/articles/patriot-act-data-security-8-myths-busted/:

    1. The Patriot Act is a law of very limited application. The law applies only to national security (terrorism) investigations within the US. The law does not give the US government the power to act outside the US, and it does not apply at all to criminal or civil investigations outside the national security area.

    2. The Patriot Act does not grant the US government access to a cloud customer’s data. The important fact about the Patriot Act that those commenting on the law in the media do not understand is that the law is a “business records” statute. What this means is that the US government can use the law to ask any company that does business in the US (this includes US subsidiaries of non-US companies) to provide the company’s own records (things like customer name, address or means of payment), but it cannot require a hosting provider to provide access to customer data stored in a non-US data center.

    3. To access customer data stored outside the US, the US government uses established treaties. Because the Patriot Act in our view does not authorize the US government to “search” a server located outside the US, the US government must request assistance from local (in-country) law enforcement to conduct a “search”, just as other EU governments do.

    4. The Patriot Act is not being used to access customer data stored in the EU. The Dutch government has recently confirmed in answers to parliamentary questions that it is not aware of any requests under the Patriot Act for personal data stored in the EU and that the US authorities have stated that if such a request were made it would be with the assistance of in-country law enforcement.

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  • Thank you for those clarifications Frances. 
    I hope that AWS-provided information is reliable and complete. Anyway, I feel more comfortable with servers hosted in Germany, within the EU, than if servers were hosted in Canada, where we are in practice more vulnerable to pressions from the US government.

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  • As Frances mentions, our data is hosted in Germany. We are adding a Canadian region this autumn, as Canada has even tighter security and privacy guidelines than Europe, so please rest assured that your data is safe.

    While I'm sorry to hear you are not interested in using the Cloud, we are receiving the opposite feedback from a large number of our users. There is a real convenience to being able to decide to spend an extra few days at that cottage this summer while making sure you're respecting your deadlines, and of course, using the Cloud opens up future possibilities that we can develop, such as sharing projects or having a colleague perform a review on your project. Without intending to sound pedantic, the world is changing, our industry is changing, and while we don't have every imaginable feature in place right now, the Cloud brings us capabilities we could not imagine with desktop only.

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