Is it possible to choose another location of the "Studio 2015" folder than in the "Documents" folder?

I am about to install Studio 2015, and I am wondering if it is possible to choose another location of the "Studio 2015" folder than in the "Documents" folder?

More specifically, I might want to put it in my Dropbox folder for the purpose of automatic backup. I am also considering putting it on a different drive on my computer in order to be able to access it from outside of Windows (since I run Windows in a VirtualBox environment on a Linux computer).

Can this be done - perhaps during installation and setup? And if so, how?

Can it also be done later on?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Marie

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  • Unknown said:
    I am about to install Studio 2015, and I am wondering if it is possible to choose another location of the "Studio 2015" folder than in the "Documents" folder?

    Quite simply, yes you can.  Don't get into moving your documents folder... actually I don't think you suggested this in the first place.  Just decide where you want your folders to be and start using that location.  You can even set the preferred location in your project templates:

    You can do this at anytime.

    Regards

    Paul

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  • So the "Studio 2015" folder (with the "Projects" subfolder) is not created automatically when Studio is first installed? Because I am not only talking about putting the actual project files somewhere else. I want everything related to Studio (except for program files) moved out of the Documents folder if possible. Jerzy said that a few files must stay there. But you disagree?

    What is the problem with moving my Documents folder?
  • This folder is created with the first start of Studio...
    Please do yourself a favor and try to move a project and test it with Studio 2011. In that respect the behavior of both S2011 and S2015 is exactly the same.

    Re moving Documents folder: if you follow the instructions given in the article, the Documents folder will still be seen as system folder. More explanation is here www.windowscentral.com/how-manage-file-storage-windows-10

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  • Unknown said:
    Jerzy said that a few files must stay there. But you disagree?

    I don't disagree.  This folder will be created and will always be there:

    c:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\Studio 2015\Projects\

    But this doesn't mean you have to put your projects in there if you don't want to.  I'd recommend you do because Studio works better when you let it do what it wants to, but using a different location or even multiple locations for your projects is not too hard to manage in Studio 2015.

    The projects.xml file will however always be in the Studio default folder here:

    c:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\Studio 2015\Projects\

    That's what Jerzy means.

    Unknown said:
    What is the problem with moving my Documents folder?

    No problem if you like to make work for yourself for no particularly good reason!  See the link from Jerzy.

    Paul

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  • Dear Jerzy, thank you, I will certainly do some experimenting in Studio 2011 first. It is great to know that I can expect the same behaviour from Studio 2015.
  • No problem if you like to make work for yourself for no particularly good reason!

    A very good reason - space on HDD. My main drive is a small SSD with 256 GB, where the whole OS and programs including the hidden restore partition are stored. So getting rid of Documents and Pictures from there and putting them to D (which is 2 TB) is really a good reason.

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  • Dear Paul, thanks again. I think I understand your point now.

    It may seem like I have no particularly good reason for wanting to move the Documents folder, but I think I do, and I think this would in fact be the right solution for me. It will mean a little extra work here and now, but later on, this set-up will be very convenient for me.

    My reason for wanting to locate all my projects on a different drive is the fact that I run Studio on a virtual Windows machine inside a Linux machine, and it would be practical to be able to access all files - especially the final target files - without having to start Windows every time. Therefore, I want my project files in a shared folder that I can access both from both "machines". Such a shared folder can be created in Linux and would appear to Windows simply as a new drive. I already have many such shared folders, so the new "drive" would appear as drive M.

    So why do I want to move the entire Documents folder there, then, and not just my projects? You have mentioned the reason yourself: It would allow Studio to do what it wants to do and put everything in the Studio default folder. I would be fiddling as little as possible with the default file and folder structure by simply moving everything in one go.

    The only other change I will probably also make is creating per client sub-folders in the "Project" folder and placing my project folders there:
    M:\Documents\Studio 2015\Projects\Client1\Project1
    M:\Documents\Studio 2015\Projects\Client1\Project2
    M:\Documents\Studio 2015\Projects\Client2\Project1
    etc.

    Does it make sense now?
  • Hi Jerzy,

    I still wouldn't move the documents folder for this, I'd just store the stuff somewhere else. But I can see your point and for you I think managing something like this (moving the location of the Documents folder itself) which is a little like fighting against the flow is less problematic. If you're technical these things are always manageable, but I'd always advise users not to do this unless they are really comfortable with what they're doing and are happy to deal with problems that can occur when windows updates, and programs won't play ball.

    But that's just my opinion :-)

    Cheers

    Paul

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  • I see your point, Paul. I am planning to stick with Windows 7 as long as it is supported (or as long as my laptop continues to function). So I am not planning to upgrade to Windows 10. Do you think normal updates are likely to cause any problems?

    I guess your answer will be: Probably not, but one never knows.

    So okay, better safe than sorry. So like I just said in my other thread ("Moving existing project files to a different location"), maybe I should just leave the Documents folder where it is and only move my projects.

    Are the files which must remain in the Documents\Studio 2015 folder important in the sense that I should back them up regularly, or can I just back up my TMs and projects and forget about the files in the Documents\Studio 2015 folder?
  • Hi Marie,

    Unknown said:
    Do you think normal updates are likely to cause any problems?

    You might never have any problems so I can't really say... but I'd just avoid it because too many applications use this stuff by default and Windows almost forces that policy as much as it can.

    Unknown said:
    Are the files which must remain in the Documents\Studio 2015 folder important in the sense that I should back them up regularly, or can I just back up my TMs and projects and forget about the files in the Documents\Studio 2015 folder?

    I think it's your resources and working files that are the most important.  So I'd back up the projects, the TMs the Termbases, the AutoSuggest Dictionaries... basically anything that I had to spend time creating.  The rest you can easily put back as they are just metadata telling Studio where to find them.  If I had hundreds of open projects because I worked as a Project Manager for a large LSP for example then I might consider trying to do something with the projects.xml, but otherwise I'd just reopen the projects I wanted if necessary.

    There are also more resources in the user folders that Studio doesn't share very well, such as AutoCorrect lists and also resources your can export import like QA settings.  So getting everything is a real chore and we have tried to get some interest through the AppStore community in extending a tool to help manage all of this.  But sadly it's still languishing as a good idea that never took off :-(

    Would be better if Studio itself just had an archive facility or backup facility that allowed an easy backup and restore of everything!  Interestingly after two months of giving people the opportunity to ask for an idea to be built that they liked this one never came up (other than a couple of people asking for a project archiving tool), so maybe it's not really anything people worry that much about anyway... at least not until they need to move computers!!

    Regards

    Paul

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  • Hi Marie,

    Unknown said:
    Do you think normal updates are likely to cause any problems?

    You might never have any problems so I can't really say... but I'd just avoid it because too many applications use this stuff by default and Windows almost forces that policy as much as it can.

    Unknown said:
    Are the files which must remain in the Documents\Studio 2015 folder important in the sense that I should back them up regularly, or can I just back up my TMs and projects and forget about the files in the Documents\Studio 2015 folder?

    I think it's your resources and working files that are the most important.  So I'd back up the projects, the TMs the Termbases, the AutoSuggest Dictionaries... basically anything that I had to spend time creating.  The rest you can easily put back as they are just metadata telling Studio where to find them.  If I had hundreds of open projects because I worked as a Project Manager for a large LSP for example then I might consider trying to do something with the projects.xml, but otherwise I'd just reopen the projects I wanted if necessary.

    There are also more resources in the user folders that Studio doesn't share very well, such as AutoCorrect lists and also resources your can export import like QA settings.  So getting everything is a real chore and we have tried to get some interest through the AppStore community in extending a tool to help manage all of this.  But sadly it's still languishing as a good idea that never took off :-(

    Would be better if Studio itself just had an archive facility or backup facility that allowed an easy backup and restore of everything!  Interestingly after two months of giving people the opportunity to ask for an idea to be built that they liked this one never came up (other than a couple of people asking for a project archiving tool), so maybe it's not really anything people worry that much about anyway... at least not until they need to move computers!!

    Regards

    Paul

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

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