Progress display in files

Question

Since I updated Trados, the progress shown in the progress column in files view is wrong. 
 Is there anything I can do to have the correct progress shown? 
 Or is there some new algorithm that calculates the progress and can I chose somewhere the formula for it? 
 Thank you!

Paul · Accepted Answer

Paul Patruno Theodor Pitsch 
 ok - given neither of you, nor anyone else, is going to answer my simple question on why you cannot use of of the other methods for seeing at a glance the wordcount... and given we seem to have three users from all of our Studio base who seem to agree with you: 
 
 I doubt you will ever see any change. 
 Just ranting and repeating yourself without providing any good reason why you can't use the existing features in the software for this purpose, or debating this rationally in the idea itself, means you are very unlikely to get any attention or be taken seriously. 
 So here's the link to the idea: 
 Please go back to Progress Bar focusing on words not segments 
 Here's a link to an article explaining the different ways in which you can use the software: 
 https://multifarious.filkin.com/2022/08/28/cant-see-the-wood-for-the-trees/ 
 And I'm going to lock this thread for further comment. If you want a change then please treat this seriously and do these two things: 
 
 use the idea where the product manager will be able to assess whether a change is needed or not 
 explain in the ideas thread why you cannot reasonably use the other mechanisms to achieve what you want

Paul · Answer

Simona Weiss Theodor Pitsch Simona Weiss said: You (RWS) should try and be a bit more professional in this regard too, or at least designate someone with people skills to answer such issues. I'm not designated to answer any questions, and I'm also doing this in my own time on the weekend. I actually like to try and help users, I do it often, and I am also happy to acknowledge when I'm wrong. If you actually read my initial response I offered a couple of suggestions which neither of you bothered to read. Instead you continue to question the change that was made without acknowledging, or even trying to understand, why it was made at all. I can understand you being upset that something changed that you were used to. But it doesn't mean that the change should be undone if the feature was actually incorrect in the first place. I can see the conversation got out of hand a little and I allowed myself to react to this. I apologise for that. I am not, and never will be, a proponent of the customer is always right because often they are not, but I should have simply not replied at all if a reasoned discussion was unlikely. I'll finish with just one simple example to try and explain. Feel free to reply if you like, or not. I took this small file: Show me how much work I have left to do Placing tags is also work If I merge segments here what does that do to the count? I then created a custom xml filetype for it so it looks like this when I open it: I then created my project and analysed the file with my TM. The view you use looks like this: In fact the confirmation statistics pane in the same Files view also shows this more clearly: All good so far. Now I work on the file and after getting this far I analyse the file again and check my stats in an old version: The wordcount is correct. I have translated all 27 words. But the file is not complete. So for many users the progress indicator would definitely be incorrect. It is not supposed to be showing a progress in words, it's a simple view of the progress of the file. In contrast in Trados Studio 2022 the result shows this: This is correct in terms of progress because the file is not finished. Segment #2 has not been addressed. It's also worth noting that the confirmation statistics show this in the old version: This is also wrong. The words translated are correct, but the segment count is incorrect because I merged the last two segments and now there are four, not five as shown here. In Trados Studio 2022 the same view is this: Correctly showing four segments. I really hope you do take the time to review this thread and you'll see that you had been provided with the reason for the change, and explanation and some solutions to your problem that are just as easy as looking at the progress bar. I'm also hoping you'll be able to follow what I have written here and will see that Trados Studio 2022 has resolved both problems of not counting incomplete segments where they were tags only, and also where segments were merged during translation. For anyone working with files that have scenarios like this, especially large files in projects with many files in them, seeing files 100% complete when they really were not can be a painful experience in terms of managing the work.

Paul · Answer

Bruce Campbell 
 The progress bar indicates progress. It just happens to use segments because using words is unreliable. You can see words, characters, segments in the confirmation statistics tab in this same view already. I think if you guys want to make a case for this then I suggest you use the ideas site for it. There is already an idea here from Camelia Geary so make your arguments in there and vote for her idea. 
 Please go back to Progress Bar focusing on words not segments

Paul · Answer

Simona Weiss Bruce Campbell Theodor Pitsch W K Alison Field Paul Patruno 
 We are running some one on one online sessions with our development team to get some direct feedback on the new Manager view in Trados Studio 2022 and this topic sits quite nicely in there. So if you're interested in making sure your opinion is considered you can apply for the opportunity here: Trados Studio Manager View - Feedback Opportunity

Lydia Simplicio · Answer

Hi Simona Weiss Are you using Trados Studio 2022 with the latest CU? If yes please keep this in mind: https://gateway.sdl.com/apex/communityknowledge?articleName=000019353 Lyds

Paul · Answer

Simona Weiss 
 Simona Weiss said: Can anything be done in this direction? 
 Perhaps you can use the Work In Progress Report? Many users are not aware of the existence of this report but it is quite useful. Run the batch task called "WIP Report": 
 
 You might also find the simple confirmation statistics is easy to use. Just select your project or your file and look at the "Confrmation Statistics" tabat the bottom of your screen: 
 
 Theodor Pitsch said: This has worked great so far. Why does someone have the idea to change that? What nonsense! 
 Well... it depends on what you think the "Progress" column is supposed to be measuring. If you don't think handling tags and empty segments is relevant then that's where your opinion differs from many others who recognise that everything is work you have to address. So the progress bar should reflect this. It's certainly not nonsense! 
 If you just want a wordcount then perhaps one of the suggestions above will be useful for you too.

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