On my system, I notice that the playback of the video lags behind the audio playback and the subtitles. Audio and subtitles are perfectly aligned, but video lags behind more and more, maybe 5 seconds after a minute of playback. Is the video file too large that I am using? (450MB for a 3m40s video, mpg format)
Daniel
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Most of our testing was done with mp4 and wmv as these were the formats that were more commonly used with our testers. I have not noticed any lag... but as with the other question, if you can share your files with me we'd be very happy to take a look and see if we can identify where the problem comes from.
As we find with virtually everything we develop we get little to no feedback while we are building it and it's only after we release that people start to use it and feedback. I'm really glad to get the feedback but it would be so much better if we could find a way to get more involvement when we're actually building things!
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Hi
Most of our testing was done with mp4 and wmv as these were the formats that were more commonly used with our testers. I have not noticed any lag... but as with the other question, if you can share your files with me we'd be very happy to take a look and see if we can identify where the problem comes from.
As we find with virtually everything we develop we get little to no feedback while we are building it and it's only after we release that people start to use it and feedback. I'm really glad to get the feedback but it would be so much better if we could find a way to get more involvement when we're actually building things!
Paul Filkin | RWS Group
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Hi Paul
I did not know there was a possibility to participate. How does one volunteer?
Daniel
I tried the same clip in both mp4 and mpg format, it does not stay synchronized when I use the high res version that is about 450 mb large (3:40m clip). I then converted it to a lower resolution (around 200 mb), which solved the problem.
So, for our purposes this is not a problem if it can be solved by converting the clip.
Daniel
I did not know there was a possibility to participate.
Yep, exactly what I thought...
The Wiki pages created just before the release and the actual release in App Store were the first signs of existence of this...
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Hi , Evzen Polenka
We ran a fairly quiet Beta to try and focus on people working in this space. But we did ask in all the places we could find where people specialised in audio visual translation... the silence was deafening. I did ask you at the time too but you didn't take me up on the offer.. This was two months ago in this thread that you both participated in:
We might be open to some external Beta testing if you are really going to test it and provide some feedback. All to often we get people asking and they provide nothing back to us at all which makes our effort a waste of time. Might as well wait until we release and then let people complain!
Oddly I was right... we got nothing!
However, now we have released we're getting a lot of feedback and much of it is really good so we are making changes as we speak to improve the way it works.
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Hi , Evzen Polenka
We ran a fairly quiet Beta to try and focus on people working in this space. But we did ask in all the places we could find where people specialised in audio visual translation... the silence was deafening. I did ask you at the time too but you didn't take me up on the offer.. This was two months ago in this thread that you both participated in:
We might be open to some external Beta testing if you are really going to test it and provide some feedback. All to often we get people asking and they provide nothing back to us at all which makes our effort a waste of time. Might as well wait until we release and then let people complain!
Oddly I was right... we got nothing!
However, now we have released we're getting a lot of feedback and much of it is really good so we are making changes as we speak to improve the way it works.
Paul Filkin | RWS Group
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Still odd though as we did get some large high res videos for working with while we developed the solution and didn't have this issue. Is there anything else at play here I wonder... do you have the videos stored on an external drive perhaps?
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I did ask you at the time too but you didn't take me up on the offer.. This was two months ago in this thread that you both participated in:
Well, then it must be my English - I really did not understand that post as "Do you want to test it?".
In any case, for reasons I stated back in that thread I'm VERY skeptic to using CAT tools for subtitles translation (I learned my lessons during my loc engineering career)... and the feedback so far just confirms my experience.
And I leave now up to others if they will learn the same the hard way or not... ;-)
In any case, for reasons I stated back in that thread I'm VERY skeptic to using CAT tools for subtitles translation (I learned my lessons during my loc engineering career)... and the feedback so far just confirms my experience.
And I leave now up to others if they will learn the same the hard way or not... ;-)
You're wrong. Translators have been using CAT tools for subtitle translation for years. We can improve the features to make the process better and the next release will incorporate improvements from the feedback we have received in just a few days after release.
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Translators have been using CAT tools for subtitle translation for years.
I was too. But it was sooo useless... ;-)
Not that it wasn't possible... I never said that. But the real-life effect/advantage of using a CAT tool was ZERO.
I have spoken to enough people to know you are way off the mark here. This is only your experience, which is clearly limited in this field. Perhaps you are only referring to movies or something like that... I don't really know, and it doesn't really matter. The fact is that there is a growing need for this today and if you were still working in the industry you might start to see it.
The first feedback after release is the opposite of what you say and this comes from a user who does do a lot of work in this field:
So I have completed my first small job with the tool. As I expected from the demo, it was perhaps the most efficient way of doing the job there is, IMO, so overall positive and very welcome, as I said to you.
I know Pavel is only one person, and so are you. I have a lot of time for the things you have to say as you were experienced in the industry, but this time I think you're off the mark. But time will tell! Certainly the webinar we held this week was the most attended webinar I have seen in my time with SDL which reinforces my opinion that there is a demand here. It's a question now of making sure we offer the most appropriate functionality we can for specialists still working in this field.
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