Comments in source segments

Hi 

I was trying to enter the comments into the source segment and wasn't able to do it. 

I'm using Studio 2021 and Microsoft Word WordprocessingML v. 2 File type.

I checked the help and I found the topic  Working with commnets  https://docs.sdl.com/813470/515200/sdl-trados-studio-2021-sr1/working-with-comments wher it says: 

Comments in source segments

If you have comments in the original source file, they are displayed in the source segments when you open a file for translation, by default. However these comments cannot be amended and new comments cannot be made to source segments.

You can also choose to extract comments from the original file for translation in SDL Trados Studio. Once translated, they will appear as comments again in the final translated file. You can choose to do this in the File Types > Microsoft Word 2007-2013 file type settings.

Note: Comments in source segments are only supported for Microsoft Word 2007-2013 (*.docx) file types.
As far as I can see this file type has been removed in recent versions of Studio so I'm wondering: 
- where can I get it?
- how could I add a comment to the source segment?
I hope I'm not alone with this question.
BR, Simon
  • I wonder if you're misreading this?  Your question was:

    I was trying to enter the comments into the source segment and wasn't able to do it. 

    You then shared this:

    If you have comments in the original source file, they are displayed in the source segments when you open a file for translation, by default. However these comments cannot be amended and new comments cannot be made to source segments.

    Note the last part.  These comments cannot be amended and new comments cannot be made to source segments.  This was never possible and still isn't.  The feature is the same in the newer filetype.  So I can do thi for example because the comment was already in Word:

    Trados Studio screenshot showing an error message 'This segment has a comment in source' with an arrow pointing to the comment icon in the source segment column.

    But I can't add more.  No real change since this article in 2015...

    https://multifarious.filkin.com/2015/04/26/chapterverse/

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

    ________________________
    Design your own training!

    You've done the courses and still need to go a little further, or still not clear? 
    Tell us what you need in our Community Solutions Hub

    emoji


    Generated Image Alt-Text
    [edited by: Trados AI at 1:45 AM (GMT 0) on 29 Feb 2024]
  • Hi Paul, 

    Indeed it seems I was misreading this part on comments and "didn't see" the explicit reference you highlighted. 

     The reason is that I have a case where customer works with several revisors and editors who would most of the time enter comments and revisions in the target segment, but they have cases where there is a feedback related to a source word or part of source segment and they need a simple way to annotate/comment  that.

    Hence, me misreading the "source comments" more in the light of my needs as in the context of "comments already present in the source document" prior to processing it in Studio. 

    Client has been using Trados 2007 unitl recently and all thier processes and workflows benefit the flexibility of bilingual Trados Workbench documents.

    I appreciate that allowing users to add new comments to the source segments could cause all sorts of issues and is therefore not supported. 

    And yes, it's been a while since I really looked into the comments as much as I'm now, so thank you for the reply and clear&understandable reply. 

     

    I glimpsed over your article from 2015 and I, obviously, need to refresh my knowledge.

    Thank you. 

  • Hi Paul, 
    I'd just like to check if my mind is playing with me... 

    I'm not sure with which version, could be some beta version, but i kind of remember that  I was able to mark comments in the source segment.  
    I also believe there was an issue with generating target file of such commented sdlxliff.

    That's why I was convinced that entering comments in the source segments would also be technically possible, but for some reason in not implemented.

    Thank you

  • I either don't recall this, or this has never been possible. I'm leaning towards the latter.

    Even if it was possible we definitely would not support doing anything with the comments in the target file Why would we when the comments related to the source?

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

    ________________________
    Design your own training!

    You've done the courses and still need to go a little further, or still not clear? 
    Tell us what you need in our Community Solutions Hub

  • Hi Paul,

    I have a case where customer (GOV) would apparecchiate to have the option of adding  comments into the parts of source text -> allowing translators and/or reviewers to clearly mark what would be the issue in the source.
    Most common reasons would be:

    -clarifying or expressing the doubt about the source term used.
    -adding an internal clarification (description) for the reviewers on the source term or "word construct"
    - pointing out the error in the source text that is critically misleading for the translation and review and that require to be communicated to source content author for later correction and implementation 
    - ... and others (can ask them to help me collect the full list).

    As I said above, I can understand that having comments in the source text just adds to the complexity of handling SDLXLIFF. 

    Until I'll have a more complete list of why one would need comments on the source text  .... 

    Thank you, Paul,  and best regards

  • I suggest you log this as an idea:

    http://ideas.sdl.com

    Paul Filkin | RWS Group

    ________________________
    Design your own training!

    You've done the courses and still need to go a little further, or still not clear? 
    Tell us what you need in our Community Solutions Hub