Studio 2021 now won't open at all after installing the subtitling plug in. I'm in the middle of an urgent project. Please can you assist?

Studio 2021 now won't open at all after installing the subtitling plug in. I'm in the middle of an urgent project. Please can you assist?
Hi Alison Watt
Can you please check this link https://gateway.rws.com/csm?id=kb_article_view&sysparm_article=KB0039435 as It might help
Best regards,
Loredana
Hi Loredana
It is not listed here,
So I went to C:\Users\aliso\AppData\Roaming\SDL\SDL Trados Studio\16\Plugins\Packages as instructed and renamed it 'Studio Subtitling_old' - is this correct?
Update: I have now removed it from this folder and Trados opens. But the thing is ultimately I don't want to uninstall it, I need to use it! Suggestions?
Alison
Renaming Studio16 won't help if your problem is plugin versioning.. You need to also remove your plugins properly and reinstall with the appropriate version from the appstore for your version of Studio. Rename this one:
...\AppData\Roaming\SDL\SDL Trados Studio\16
Then also rename Studio16 to make sure anything you keep putting back there which could influence this problem is reset.
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Only this solution worked Paul, for both the Weaver and the Subtitling plugins, so the pain of installing my full set of plugins REMAIN! Thanks for your help on this, but indeed this has nothing to do with my amazing setup as you mentioned, but it has to do with the mechanism SDL Studio is dealing with plugins every time there is an update or cumulative batch or a new service release. I can not imagine how plugins would have any contradiction if they are tested to work together side by side. Also I can not imagine that having other SSD drives or many partitions would impact the behaviour of SDL Studio. Anyway, thanks a lot for your support on this. SDL should be proud of someone like you who jumps to the rescue.
Renaming this: ...\AppData\Roaming\SDL\SDL Trados Studio\16
is the solution then.
Alison, fear not, this will do the job, so time to give your labtop a break.
Sameh
I am about to install the MT Enhanced plugin Paul and to the best of my knowldege and that of the Worldbank colleagues, we always used an old version of the plugin which was the only one that worked. Now I am going to test the new one from the integrated appstore and see how it works. I hope this does not waste the remainder of my day, as I do have some translation work to finalize. Most of the people I trained at the WB complained that the new plugin was not working for them, so are you aware of this issue?
Thank you for the video. The very first thing a support engineer will do is reset Studio (this includes plugins) which you have still not done. So you should relly do this properly first and if you still can't run Studio without any error after removing all external influences such as plugins then we have something to help resolve.
If Studio does work, then start reinstalling by just taking the "problematic" plugins and see if the issue is still there.
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here we go again Paul! This updated plugin, installed via the integrated Appstore does not work, and I believe this has nothing to do with Microsoft, as if I try to install the old plugin, it will work, so it has nothing to do with the credentials, API key or Microsoft Key or the Category ID! Or maybe is, it is something in between both SDL and Microsoft? I have no idea. Any help? I just talked to Osama Abdul Hameed, the Worldbank Arabic division team leader and he confirmed the same, not only with him but all other Worldbank translators.
but I did Paul, haven't you checked all my messages? including this one about the MT Enhanced Plugin?
I can not imagine how plugins would have any contradiction if they are tested to work together side by side.
Well... of course this does not happen! There are hundreds of plugins on the appstore and we do not install every single one to see what happens and make sure they all work together. That sort of testing is simply not sustainable, especially since developers are free to update their own plugins whenever they wish.
Also I can not imagine that having other SSD drives or many partitions would impact the behaviour of SDL Studio.
You only have to look in the knowledgebase to know that this can have an impact. I am often amazed at what can cause a problem on a computer!
the pain of installing my full set of plugins REMAIN!
Perhaps it's a good time to take on a new strategy? Installing plugins today is really a very simple process. You do have to restart Studio but the act of installing or deleting a plugin is very simple. So perhaps you should not install them all, but rather install what you need. I'm sure you can't use all of the plugins you have installed every day and for every project. Or do you?
Only this solution worked Paul, for both the Weaver and the Subtitling plugins
Phew! That is the best news I've had today!
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I am sure that whatever I report to you should be a source of pleasure rather than a frustration Paul, as hardcore users like me often do work with a lot of plugins on a daily basis to streamline their work processes so we tend to discover bugs or incompatibility issues on a much frequent basis, and that is good for RWS, isn't it? So please do bear with me, and at the end we are all happy to have an efficient tool that we can all be proud of (of course the full satisfaction will come when RWS decides to upgrade SDL Studio Editor once and for all, as we have been requesting this for years now). Thanks a million for your support Paul and my best regards to you and your family.
I really have no idea what is going one! I restarted Studio several times, started my PC, but the same thing happens, and guess what, for a Find and Replace process!!! It does not replace all!!!!! This has nothing to do with the plugins, I believe! No
I really have no idea what is going one! I restarted Studio several times, started my PC, but the same thing happens, and guess what, for a Find and Replace process!!! It does not replace all!!!!! This has nothing to do with the plugins, I believe! No
Not right. It will not work with any plugin version. Please review the changelog: https://community.rws.com/product-groups/trados-portfolio/trados-studio/w/customer-experience/5547/changelog-mt-enhanced-plugin-for-trados-studio
We actually updated the previous version to make sure t could not be installed in SR2 so if you have a version that does it must be really old.
It's very hard for me to have confidence in the problems you report because I don't think you really do the things I ask you when I say remove all the plugins you have installed and put them back via the integrated appstore, or at least make sure you download from the appstore the version that does correspond to the version of Trados Studio you are installing into.
Paul Filkin | RWS Group
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