Trados Business Manager
Language Weaver Connectors
Language Weaver Edge
Tridion Docs Developers
RWS User Experience
Internal Trados Ideas Community
RWS Community Internal Group
RWS Training & Certification
RWS Enterprise Technology Partners
Trados Approved Trainers
ETUG (European Trados User Group) Public Information
Nordic Tridion Docs User Group
Tridion West Coast User Group
Trados Studio Ideas
Trados GroupShare Ideas
Trados Team Ideas
Trados Team Terminology Ideas
Trados Enterprise Ideas
Trados Business Manager Ideas
RWS Appstore Ideas
Tridion Docs Ideas
Tridion Sites Ideas
Language Weaver Ideas
Language Weaver Edge Ideas
Managed Translation - Enterprise Ideas
LiveContent S1000D Ideas
Events & Webinars
To RWS Support
Detecting language please wait for.......
Good morning,When translating an html file, we're facing an issue with Trados Studio since it segments the bold parts that are between the tags <strong> and </strong>. Here is an example:HTML:Trados:This has also happened previously with bold letters in the middle of a sentence or even in words. We don't have any segmentation rule in our memory that tells Trados to segment whenever a "</strong>" appears, so we can't delete it. How can we tell Trados to not segment whenever this tag appears? Thank you in advance for your help!Noa
As far as I can see the default settings don't do this:
So I suggest you look at whether you have created parser rules that segment on the html filetype, or maybe created a segmentation rule on your TM. Given the defaults don't do this with the file I created based on your image we'd need more information from you to be able to help.
Good morning, PaulThank you for your reply. We've been checking our Trados parser rules for the html filetype and we can't find anything related to the bold ("strong") tag. Here is a screenshot of the parser rules:We've just tried adding a "strong" rule with the same configuration as the other rules, but nothing changes on the segmentation, so we've deleted it. It was like this:We've also tried with both "Not translatable" and "Inline" interchangeably with "Translatable" and "Structure" and we haven't found the way to make it work with this configurations. In our memories, we only have the 3 default ones and the ones we have created for the hyphen and the "br" tag:How should we proceed?Thank you,Noa
Noa Gallego said:How should we proceed?
Provide a sample file so we actually have the same problem to contend with that you do. Otherwise we are totally guessing and as you can see I don't have that problem with my guess! Just provide a small sample file that behaves in the way you see now. So only a few segments. It's not helpful to have to try and help with huge files.
Noa Gallego said:In our memories, we only have the 3 default ones and the ones we have created for the hyphen and the "br" tag:
Are you sure you needed to do this? We can't see what the rules were or know what effect this might be having on your file, so if you can provide an empty TM or Language Resource Template with your rules that would also be good.
Hi!Thank you for your quick reply!Here I attach both an empty TM with the segmentation rules that we use and a sample file (the one I used for the examples, which show on segments 125 to 130 in my project).
FR-ES test segmentation rules.zip20220520095609-Italie-NFEUILL71 (1).zip
ok - so these bits?
ok. I took your file and based on your instructions created a new file like this (a small file!):
This renders as you explained like this:
Now, I don't see any examples in here that look anything like your original problem. The strong tag isn't even in here. I don't really know what I'm supposed to be achieving for you here. Can you explain based on this example you provided?
Hi!In my 125 to 130 segments, the text is different. Here is a screenshot: In this html file, this segmentation issue affects mostly to "Robe", "Nez" and "Bouche", but also other words. These are the ones that have most repetitions.
ok - with the TM you provided and the full file I see this:
You must have some segmentation on your parser rules. Your TM br rule is not doing anything because it's a tag. If I don't use a TM at all I see this:
So, can you share your filetype settings?
Mine is greyed because they are default. If your is not greyed then you have made some changes there and this may be having some impact. If they are greyed then can you tell us what version of the software you are working with?
We are currently using in my team Trados 2021. We have a custom filetype settings file:Custom file type for HTML (2).zipThese are the parser settings for this custom filetype:We have the default HTML 5 filetype with the default settings and on a lower place so that the "brand new" filetype settings come first. If I go to the Parser settings of HTML 5, there is a rule for "strong" with tag type "Inline". Could this be the rule that is segmenting the "strong" tags?Thank you!
My defaults give me this:
Using your rules gets me this:
So we seem to be on the same page now at least!
To fix it I just added a rule for strong to your rules and made it inline. Because you excluded a rule for strong it inherited the structure for html.